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This project was recently completed in the North East of England. The enquiry was received from a search of this TILERS FORUM by the client and contact made. The job was reclaimed Victorian tiles which the client painstakingly cleaned and we fixed after preparing the substrate with electric under floor heating.
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K
What tiles are those .joints very big for Victorian tiles ?
 
T
Really ! They are original victorian pieces from 1905. Fixed with fast set flexible adhesive onto a Hardie tile backer board prepared substrate with electric UFH and levelled. The tiles are fixed in a self spacing pattern which requires the rest to follow that line. The joint is 2mm in accordance with British standards for cement based adhesives.
 
K
British standards for adhesives say that you should fit Victorian tiles with a 2mm spacing ? As Victorian tiles were not fitted with joints of that size .I'd find a different adhesive and make it look original
 
K
They have a specific standard for fitting 100 yr old tiles on top of hardebacker and under floor heating ?
 
T
@Kevbos as original as the closure pieces in all your borders - yeah right!
 
K
Funny as I'm sure my Victorian floors mimic original methods
 
K
If you'd put the 3rd Linc of your border in .it would look great
 
T
@Kevbos -3rd line in the border?
And where do you suggest that would come from! This was a reclaimed floor, the original tiles were all we had to work with, it's not like your modern reproduction efforts.
There is no excuse for the mistakes in your setting out of the linear borders. Some of those closures are criminal. I'am surprised you have the nerve to critique others work turning out jobs like that.
 
K
The closures are needed as fitting designs into spaces that can't be moved. If client wants to pay for the tiles cut to a bespoke size they usually go for the closure after seeing prices .but it is funny you wouldn't realise that .being such the expert.
 
K
Still you not answered what standards are set for spacing of tiles and where this comes from .
 
T
Troll all you like.
Closures in your jobs are lazy setting out and your explanation is tosh!
I shall have to post a thread showing your 'expert' work and see if the rest of the tiling community agree with your views on original victorian work.
 
K
Closures on jobs I tile are what the client signs off .from suppliers drawings .by increasing width of first or second line border any border can be made whole tile. This comes with an extra cost as that means bespoke cut line borders .as they cost a lot already most people will go for a closure .but as I said now for third time what are the standards for joint sizes set out by the adhesive manufacturers. And why did the floor you are so proud of not have the outer border .look through my albums mate think your see the original look repeated over and over .
 
T
Not sure if you need help or are just trolling for fun. If you can't read my earlier reply regarding the border, or know the spacing of floor tiling, then you shouldn't be attempting to set out these style floors. Perhaps you should change your avatar and name to the 'closure kid' - he'll ruin any job!
 
Dan
Wasn't that the floor that was taken up from another property, cleaned and relaid exactly as it was in 1907?

So it is to the same layout as it was manufactured and intended.... Right?
 
M
lol if the customers happy whats the issue ? i think it looks great
 
Dan
@Kevbos which bit in the standards is it? I'll login to try find it because i cant seem to find that bit about them being 2mm.
 
K
It's funny I only asked what tiles they were as original Victorian floors were almost but jointed .I get laid into being told the specifications say you use 2mm joints to fix tiles with .I questioned this
 
T
Read your posts again and see your trolling remarks.
To repeat my first reply - these are original reclaimed Victorian tiles and are a set design. The pattern is such that the joint size of 2mm is self spacing from the centre squares. Any floor tiling must conform to British Standards to allow tiling over UFH .
Your comments about extra lines in the border are irrelevant as my setting out is correct for this hallway and exactly as the original.
Being critical of my ' proud and expert' work, only has standing if you are producing work that can be viewed in an equal standard. However you are showing pictures of various geometric jobs and a limestone floor over UFH that invite adverse comments. I'd suggest you ask within the forum for advice if you are unsure of any fixing techniques, this trade is changing - we have to adapt or fail!
I don't wish to sound or be patronising , but if you would like any input, I would not hesitate to offer assistance.
John.
 
K
You seem to have been rialled from a quite simple question .which you still have not answered.you did not say any of that in response to my original question .you stated quite simply the spacing was a standard you had to adhere to .no pun intended.you took offence to me asking what standard this was and have not answered as to date .I don't think I need any of your knowledge as you don't seem to be able to answer a simple question on your own .look at floors I have put in my albums then yours .then look at original Victorian floors .they do not have 2mm grout joints .you talk rubbish .
 
K
Your floor looked like topps tile floor that's why I originally asked .then I asked what specification states as you did you must use 2mm spacing you did not answer .get facts right .and don't question back .you got annoyed originally look back at the conversation
 
K
Not being funny .but refer to our original conversation .like you now have changed again .there is no mention of self spacing or anything like that .no mention of self spacing from centre squares etc etc blah blah .they were reclaimed tiles .if you'd known what you were doing you'd have just reduced the floor not made it fit for your ease. No floor is the same .they were not reclaimed from that building were they
 
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