Acceptable tiling or not?

[Michelle M]

I've just got home from work and this is the tiling in my en-suite so far. Is this acceptable or not? I've included 5 photos and I'm having my ensuite tiled throughout with the same tile:theres a photo where the floor meets the walls and the tiles do not line up. Chips in the tiles, Where the window frame there is the silver edging strip used and this is not flush with the tile i.e the tile sticks out and looks raised, a tile which has been cut down the edge which looks like it has a serated edge.

I'd appreciate your views as to whether you'd be happy with this level of work.

Thanks

Michelle

 

[Gazzer]

Nope not acceptable in my eyes.

 

[peteablard]

It's not the worst I've seen on here but it's far from acceptable. Have you spoken to your tiler about it? The chipped tiles can be replaced the and a neat bead of silicone will sort out picture 1. Do the tiles line up on the opposite wall?

 

[Bubblecraft]

I wouldn't accept it though as said above, it isn't the worst I've seen

 

[Dougs Third Go]

not an acceptable job from a professional sorry to say Michelle

 

[johnryan]

looks like easily fixable problems except for pic 5. is the room out of square? do they line up on the other side? maybe he started at the other wall and found his setting out was wrong. wouldn't think much could be done about that other than taking the floor up and doing it again.

 

[Michelle M]

Hi Pete
Not spoken to the tiler yet as I didn't get home before he had gone. However I shall speak to him tomorrow morning. I just wasn't sure if I was within my rights to complain about it.

Here's a picture of the other side of the room so you can see that the tiles match up on the other side.

How would he go about fixing this now tho?

Thanks

Michelle

 

[Ian]

The only way to fix this issue is to remove the tiles on the wall where the joints don't meet and redo. No other way around it I'm afraid.

 

[Michelle M]

Am I out of order asking them to do this? What about the cost of the tiles? Should I expect them to replace them as they messed up in the first place?

I wouldn't mind but I've paid a lot of money for this. The tiles were from porcelanosa and the fitter is charging me £** sqm.

Thank you everyone for your posts. I appreciate the comments as I know its not just me being fussy now.

Thanks

Michelle

 

[peteablard]

The problem is he's used a full tile against that wall and not checked if the walls are square. That's the only one that is going o be a major headache as the floor would have to come up completely to rectify it.
have you paid for the work yet?

 

[John Benton]

If the tiler had set the room out in the first place then he would have known where all the joints would have been before he had even stuck a tile to the wall or floor. Was the tiler recommended by Porcelanosa Michelle?

 

[johnryan]

as i and a couple of others mentioned before you'd need to take up the floor to fix it, but even then you'd have cuts by the shower and door walls that were out of parallel. i think bri mentioned that strictly speaking the wall tiles that are out of line would have to come off and be redone. do you know if he used tubbed adhesive for the walls. if so it's not suitable for this application, but on the bright side if he did the tiles could be taken off and used again.

 

[Michelle M]

No not paid yet. Its 40sq as well so will be a lot. No the tiler was not recommeded by Porcelanosa. I've had a complete bathroom makerover by Wickes. So they have supplied them.

It's about an inch out as well. The room is perfectly square but he's not measured correctly. To be honest I've had the wall built on the right by him to make this ensuite so if its wasn't square it would be his fault as well. But I've measured the distance from wall to wall both ways and its completely perfect.

Would you not pay for any of the tiling if he refuses to not fix the problem?

Here's a close up:

Thanks

Michelle

 

[Michelle M]

The adhesive is Toppfix part flexible adhesive latex. Well that's the tub i can see in my bedroom apart from the grout bag. Is this good or bad?

 

[Dougs Third Go]

to me it's a classic case of floor should've gone down first, that way whatever deviations are in the walls, ie out of square, could've all been adjusted to suit.

 

[Dougs Third Go]

No not paid yet. Its 40sq as well so will be a lot. No the tiler was not recommeded by Porcelanosa. I've had a complete bathroom makerover by Wickes. So they have supplied them.

It's about an inch out as well. The room is perfectly square but he's not measured correctly. To be honest I've had the wall built on the right by him to make this ensuite so if its wasn't square it would be his fault as well. But I've measured the distance from wall to wall both ways and its completely perfect.

Would you not pay for any of the tiling if he refuses to not fix the problem?

Here's a close up: View attachment 47468

Thanks

Michelle

measuring the wall both ways and both measurements being the same doesn't make it square Michelle, a parallelogram would do that.

 

[John Benton]

As Wickes are doing the whole refurb, I'm guessing that he's a subcontractor to Wickes. Therefore, are you paying Wickes once the job is complete, or are you paying Wickes for the suite and tiles, and the tiler directly for his work?

 

[kilty55]

hi there...can we see apic of the full window and the tiling cuts michelle? and has he centred the window on one wall ...also was matching grout lines discussed with the tiler before he started

 

[White Room]

The adhesive is Toppfix part flexible adhesive latex. Well that's the tub i can see in my bedroom apart from the grout bag. Is this good or bad?

Is it this one http://www.**********.co.uk//s_product_images/M3830_1_DSC_7629.jpg

 

[kilty55]

the chipped tile and lipping tiles can be removed possibly and replaced

 

[Michelle M]

Ooops yes just cos the walls are the same length doesn't make it square. Agreed.

The adhesive is this tub.

Wickes have contracted all the work out to this bloke - so he has done everything. Tiling, new wall, fitting the suite, shower etc. I had to pay wickes a standard installation price and then he is charging me for the tiling, the new wall, plastering of the ceiling. I have paid half so far. However he was supplied by wickes.

I can see what he says tomorrow, but from the general feeling on here the workmanship is not good in parts.

Thank you!!

 

[Michelle M]

another point whilst we're at it. I asked about the tiles to be as close together as possible to leave as little grout line as possible. He said he needed to do a minimum of 2mm to stop any damp getting behind the tiles. However this is about 4 mm - so not happy about that either. He said that if i went for 1mm then he wouldn't guarantee his work as damp could get in by the shower. The grout was supposed to be the same colour but on the picture it looks a lot darker. It's not too bad in real life but i am disappointed with the gap size.

 

[Ian]

The recommended minimum for walls is 2mm, that should be more than achievable with porcelanosa tiles, they are top quality. Not sure why he thinks that a 1mm joint would cause a damp problem, the grout will absorb water regardless of joint size. We're the walls waterproofed/tanked prior to tiling? Not the whole room needs to be done, but it is advisable in wet areas such as the shower.

 

[Michelle M]

Bri....i don't know whether he water proofed the walls or not. I'll ask tomorrow. I think he just wanted to do a certain grout size no matter what I wanted. He is quite intimidating so when he said he wouldn't guarantee his work if i went for 1mm I felt i had no choice.

Anyhow I'll let you all go to bed. I'll update you tomorrow on what he says.

Thanks everyone

Michelle

 

[The D]

He is talking rubbish the joint size is nothing to do damp it is to do with expansion. As bri has said with porcelenosa tiles he should have been able to achieve a 2mm joint with no problems A 1mm joint is achievable using a perimeter expansion joint. If a 2mm joint was agreed then why has he used a 4mm spacer IMO that is a hideous joint size on a wall and totally unnecessary. Again it is just my opinion but the tiling is shoddy to say the least the miss matched joints the chipped tile and the lipping tiles on the trim should have been rectified before the job was grouted the fact that he was obviously aware of the problems and did not rectify them speaks volumes.