Asbestos in artex

[sibs]

Hi everyone
does anybody know when abouts they stopped putting asbestos in artex? I have to go and look at a kitchen tomorrow and it is apparently covered in artex which she wants either skimming over or taking off and then skimming... better get some practise in lol. BTW she said it has been there since 1982

 

[Northern Bird]

http://community.channel4.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/566602047/m/4650013032

1988

Hope this helps

 

[Gazzer]

I think it was around 1988 when they stopped using asbestos in artex.

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070513031905AA630IB

 

[sibs]

Thanks guys nice one

 

[Cliff Anger]

treat your self to a decent face mask if you strip it !

 

[GatesheadCol]

No No No No No

Do not strip it and just use a face mask.

This is very dangerous stuff, trust me my grandad, dad and 2 uncles died of asbestosis.

The guys that do it properly look like theyre working in a bio-lab with the amount of safety gear they have.

Yes its true that only certain types of asbestos can cause the real damage, but there is no way to tell which one you have without putting it under a microscope.

This stuff is not only dangerous to you when removing it, its also dangerous to anyone in your house when you come home with the fibres all over your clothes and then strip off. They float everywhere. Plenty of women have died from asbestosis too and all they did was wash their husbands work gear.

If its not doing anything leave it and cover it up with plenty of off the shelf products, its only dangerous when drilled, broken, or pulled out. thats when it breaks up.

It costs hundreds and sometimes thousands to get this removed properly and there is good reason for the cost.

Dont touch it, it sits for years without any signs showing.

 

[sibs]

No No No No No

Do not strip it and just use a face mask.

This is very dangerous stuff, trust me my grandad, dad and 2 uncles died of asbestosis.

The guys that do it properly look like theyre working in a bio-lab with the amount of safety gear they have.

Yes its true that only certain types of asbestos can cause the real damage, but there is no way to tell which one you have without putting it under a microscope.

This stuff is not only dangerous to you when removing it, its also dangerous to anyone in your house when you come home with the fibres all over your clothes and then strip off. They float everywhere. Plenty of women have died from asbestosis too and all they did was wash their husbands work gear.

If its not doing anything leave it and cover it up with plenty of off the shelf products, its only dangerous when drilled, broken, or pulled out. thats when it breaks up.

It costs hundreds and sometimes thousands to get this removed properly and there is good reason for the cost.

Dont touch it, it sits for years without any signs showing.

I'm kinda coming to that conclusion too GatesheadCol. I think sometimes people don't take asbestos seriously enough. I've been looking on the HSE website about it and got some good information from there. I don't think I'll be removing any now as gotta give em a quote for skimming over.
Thanks for all your replies

 

[GatesheadCol]

Exactly Sibs.


Its best left, skimmed or covered with Artex coverings.

Its not worth taking a chance. Dont drill into it, cut it or anything.

If the customer does want it removing they will have to pay a 'licensed' contractor to do it.

 

[cocojambo]

Asbestos was banned in consumer & industrial products between the 1980s and 2000.... Here's a useful information paragraph from the asbestos & mesothelioma website

Asbestos was banned from use near gas fireplaces and wallboard patching compounds by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) in the early 1980s. In 1989, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) banned all new uses of Asbestos and required all schools to inspect their building compounds for presence of asbestos fibers and ordered immediate asbestos abatement. In August 2000, the EPA ordered an investigation inquiry into the use of vermiculite asbestos in gardening products. The study concluded that vermiculite asbestos posed minimal health risks and the EPA advised gardening consumers to minimize emission of dust whilst gardening. The EPA also suggested consumers use vermiculite in well ventilated areas only and keep it damp. It was also suggested to use premixed potting soil which is less likely to emit dust. In June 2000, the EPA determined that asbestos fibers that reside in crayons & pencils did not pose a health risk to children using them, although crayon manufacturers agreed to eliminate the use of talc in their products. According to Cancer.Gov, the use of asbestos in the US has decline from 803,000 metric tons in 1973 to only 2,400 metric tons in 2005.

 

[White Room]

You could even over board, If you do skim don't scrape the ceiling to flatten just pva, skim, Good advise by every one on the subject

 

[doug boardley]

would it be better thistle bonding it whitebeam?

 

[doug boardley]

GULP!! when I've skimmed over I've always knocked the spikes of stippled artex:huh2::stupid:

 

[White Room]

If it was a deep pattern you could but pva first, Just got to hope that the guy that put it on in the first place done the right prep. I have had some nightmares with bad work where it bulged once the moisture from the plaster soaked into the artex, Then you have scrape the stuff off which is no advantage

 

[BDS]

Doug was talking to a plastering friend of mine about this yesterday,i`ve got a job doing bathroom and customer wants downlighters or some other new fandagled lights in,so asked friend if he wanted the work doing ceiling said yeah so when i said to him about taking artex of and skiming he told me the same that they used asbestos in the artex i didn`t know that,he said it would be better to just skim over,so learnt something else new

 

[MrSpoon]

if its old artex i nearly always overboard, no guaruntee if it contains asbestos and you never know how well its stuck up there! even if its really stippley you can allways give it 3 coats of plaster tho id tent to use WBA if this is the case

 

[Dan]

Some of the threads in the tiling forum that have had a lot of views are being bumped up into current discussion. Just walk on by if it's not your flavour right now. Perhaps it'll help somebody out one day, and they become members, and then they post a thread, and professional tilers respond, and then you learn something from them...? Maybe?