BAL FastFlex - is this the right adhesive on ply and for heat?

[petesma]

Hi All,

Tiling onto marine ply around a range heating system, the current tiles (10x20) are coming away. Apparently the adhesive used was heat resistant, yet was only put on 6 mths ago and are already coming away.
There are hot pipes in one corner, closest to where the tiles are coming away.

Would BAL Fastflex be the best product to ensure that re-fixed tiles stay in place? If so, does anyone know a rough price for BAL Fastflex and who supplies it? I've about 1 sq yrd only to re-fix.

cheers

 

[brian c]

ctd supply it but dont know the price.

 

[petesma]

Sorry Guys,
I forgot to mention, I'm in Co Kerry in the Rep of Ireland. Do you know any Irish suppliers?

 

[GazTech]

Hi petesma,
If you can't find a supplier where you are, the alternative is the Dunlop 2 part flexi....Gaz
Adhesion Products
Dunlop 2-Part Rapidset Flex
• Sets In 3 Hours
• Highly Flexible
• Water-Resistant
• Fixes Most Tiles
• Fixes To Most Floor Backgrounds
• For Floor Tiling Only
• Easy-To-Use 2-Part Kit

Size: 9.3kg, 11.55kg
Ideal Kit For Most Tile Types And Most Floor Backgrounds

 

[petesma]

Sorry Gaztech, my original post wasn't very clear. It's actually wall tiles above a range system that are coming away. Do you know if BAL Falsflex/Dunlop 2 part can be used on walls or any other suggestions for wall tiles?
I have a Dublin Contact for BAL, but will have to wait till Monday to call them.

 

[grumpygrouter]

Fastflex is not recommended on walls, BAL Flex is though, though it is very soft and I don't know how much initial "grip" it will have to hold the tiles in place.

 

[GazTech]

Fastflex is not recommended on walls, BAL Flex is though, though it is very soft and I don't know how much initial "grip" it will have to hold the tiles in place.

Bal Flex is indeed the wall tile version of Fastflex. It has more cement in it which gives it none slip property.If i read your post right you are replacing tiles, therefore you dont need the support, so back buttered tiles would be ok. If you have a Bal supplier and don't need big bags, then Mosaicfix is available in 5kg bags.....Gaz

 

[petesma]

thanks grumpygrouter, i've have a Number for BAL, so i'll give them a call.

 

[petesma]

thanks GazTech

 

[GazTech]

thanks GazTech

No problem, 5kg of mosaic fix is your best option, as it is highly flexible and suitable for plywood....Gaz
BAL Mosaic-Fix Tile Adhesive

A bright white, non-slip, water and frost-resistant, cementitious wall and floor tile adhesive specially formulated for fixing mosaic tiles including glass mosaics. It is also suitable for fixing ceramic wall and floor tiles, metal or glass tiles, marble, terrazzo, and natural stone in interior and exterior locations. Suitable for use in swimming pools. Can be used on most surfaces including MDF (in internal dry areas).

 

[petesma]

I've had a look at BAL Flex and BAL Mosaic Fix online, and I've still not 100% sure which is best to use. BAL Flex seems ok to use on plywood/chipboard, yet only has a temperature resistance of -30 to 60degrees C. Mosaic Fix dosen't say it is suitable for Plywood, but has a better temperature range of -30 to 100 C. The range system is basically on the whole time and gets very warm. I'm not sure if the 60 degrees max for BAL Flex would be high enough or if Mosaic Fix is OK to use on ply?

 

[GazTech]

I've had a look at BAL Flex and BAL Mosaic Fix online, and I've still not 100% sure which is best to use. BAL Flex seems ok to use on plywood/chipboard, yet only has a temperature resistance of -30 to 60degrees C. Mosaic Fix dosen't say it is suitable for Plywood, but has a better temperature range of -30 to 100 C. The range system is basically on the whole time and gets very warm. I'm not sure if the 60 degrees max for BAL Flex would be high enough or if Mosaic Fix is OK to use on ply?

I can tell you mosaicfix is suitable for plywood....Gaz

 

[petesma]

Sorry, diddn't read the last post. I'll go with Mosaic Fix. Thanks Gaztech adn Grumpy for all you help!!!