Boarding before tiling?

[DoraCake]

Hi,

I'm gutting a bathroom I'm going to tile.

I was planning on dotting and dabbing the brick walls after I ripped off the old tiles. The tiles were only part of the way up the wall.




After Stripping the tiles (which were on 1" chipboard) I am left with around a 20 - 30mm step.




Whats the best course of action? I'm now thinking I'll batten the brick below then screw the plasterboard direct to both?

Removing the plaster above will be too much grief (dust & time)

Any advice gents?

ps - I'm tanking round the over bath shower :smilewinkgrin:

cheers

 

[DHTiling]

Hi...

Pull it all off and D&D the whole lot..

 

[DoraCake]

Can't. Made the mistake of filling the house with stuff that would get ruined with the dust. The plaster is old school thick.

I know removing would give the best and obvious flat surface - I'm asking for alternatives.

 

[DHTiling]

Ok... then D&D the bottom half and then D&D over all of it.

 

[White Room]

You could batten up the wall and put packers behind where the batten runs over the brickwork...my preference would be remove the old plaster and start afresh on to new board....or you dab strips of board onto the brickwork and let the adhesive set and then dot and dab new boards over the top but put some fixings threw the top part of the board, again when the adhesive has set....

 

[mattle40]

IMO the only way to do this properly if you absolutely 100% cannot remove the rest of the plaster, would be to build a stud wall in front but this obviously eats space
Anything else would compromise the installations integrity
Again this is just my opinion

 

[DoraCake]

I thought of that amongst other possible solutions but didn't know if it was do-able.

Exactly the type of answer I was looking for.

Thanks a lot Dave

 

[mattle40]

Wow I'm slow, 3 replies while I was writing lol

 

[DoraCake]

You boys are quick!

I should also have said - the room is tiny so no room to stud the whole lot.

 

[DoraCake]

I might put the second skin of plasterboard on the bath edge to cut the bath into the wall a bit.

Any objections to that assuming I silicon before and after I tank & tile.?

 

[mattle40]

You boys are quick!

I should also have said - the room is tiny so no room to stud the whole lot.

Always difficult situation, there's obviously always a solution to a problem
I would definatly rethink ripping everything off, as much of a pain as it is it would improve the installation,
Can you not put a polythene sheet over the doorway and keep window wide open with the vac going??

 

[mattle40]

I might put the second skin of plasterboard on the bath edge to cut the bath into the wall a bit.

Any objections to that assuming I silicon before and after I tank & tile.?

Yes no problem with that, in theory this is a better way to do it as if water did get back there it would be guided back into the bath

 

[White Room]

I might put the second skin of plasterboard on the bath edge to cut the bath into the wall a bit.

Any objections to that assuming I silicon before and after I tank & tile.?

The plasterboard may need some support while the adhesive is going off....

 

[DoraCake]

Screw it as well Whitebeam?

 

[White Room]

Could use a couple of masonary nails...personally I would do the whole wall then cut out where you want your bath to sink into the wall.

 

[DoraCake]

Are the fixings you're suggesting on the second skin I'm thinking of sitting on the bath?

cheers for all the replies btw.

 

[White Room]

Fixing where the board is on the existing upper half of the wall...

 

[DoraCake]

After Dotting and dabbing the bottom half of this wall I realised dotting and dabbing the second skin with the bath in may have been too much trouble. I ended up doing the whole wall with the second skin and now have a nice flat wall.

My next dilemna is tiling with the bath in. After reading all you helpful chaps on here I know the best way is to tile onto the bath as it creates a better seal. I'm concerned about damaging the bath and the pain in the *** of access when the bath is in though.

Is it possible to fit the bath, lay the bottom row of tiles along the bath and down the sides, let them set, remove the bath, tile and grout the remainder and then re-fit the bath?

Are there reasons why this is a bad idea? Any tips?

I'm also swithering wether to cut the bath into that second skin of PB as well.

cheers