Bonding...again

[macten]

I've yet to meet a spreader that doesn't think it's acceptable to tile on to this.
I've also met quite a few tilers who fix to this all the time. :mad2:

Was just wondering if it's okay to skim over the odd area of bonding that a plasterer has applied to level a wall with something like wickes one coat, let it dry, prime and tile as normal for a plaster wall.

Just don't want to talk myself out of another job by giving correct advice.
Customer doesn't want to go the overboard route.

 

[White Room]

What size areas have bonding applied.....

 

[macten]

I'll know more when I see it to quote on Tuesday. Only spoke to the guy on the phone but sounds like 3 walls are aqua paneled but the last one has been made good with a rough plaster that his spreader has said is fine for tiling.
Me being the pessimist I am, I kind of know what I'm going to find. Lost out on a few jobs because of bonding as other tilers have said no problem and tiled it whereas I have always specced removal and reboard or a skim.
Would just love to squeeze this job in next week and then I'll be booked up till new year, January is normally really slow!

 

[nybor62]

i never tile on bonding coat , you could skim it , but then you have to let it dry ,adding time to the job, or you cold remove it and reboard
which i prosume the customer want do , due to other advice they have had
explain the pitfalls of tiling onto bonding
no one likes loosing work , what size tiles are we talking about

 

[kilty55]

any chance you can take the job on and skim it yourself before job starts mate

 

[kilty55]

i wouldnt even discuss extra cost of skim with customer...i would price it for the skim to be done and just do it

 

[macten]

I don't mind skimming small amounts to make good but wouldn't take on a whole wall. So if I was to skim over the bonding with something like wickes one coat finish would that be a way forward?
I'm assuming it would bond well to the browning, set fast and be suitably strong and stable to receive tile once primed.
But you know what they say about assumptions!

 

[kilty55]

take it back and dot and dab the wall is this an option?

i have never used these other one coat plasters macten only ever really used bond and multi

 

[macten]

It's always the option I would go for Kilty but most customers tend to go elsewhere after I tell them that.
It might not be too bad when I see it for myself, just after some options.

 

[kilty55]

if its just 1 wall then you could just cost re sheeting it yourself and just do it so you can get on the job

i know what you mean about customers most think you are trying to fleece money out the job as most tilers i have come across also tile onto bonding

 

[Alan M]

whats the problem with bonding. does it pull the moisture out of the addy. does the skim help stop that.
if it is that why coulnt you use something like a tanking kit to seal the bonding and tile that

 

[White Room]

Bonding has been changed over the last year and feels more like browning and bonding mixed together and feels weaker....

 

[macten]

Was worrying about nothing. Only small patches of bonding to contend with and tiles are 8mm ceramic.
Downside is 3 windows in a row

 

[stusgsx]

I've got a nice bit of bonding on job I'm on for a builder it's about 4sqm floor to ceiling and when I said I can't tile onto it the builder said give it a few coats of unibond....sigh.
Also the wet room area has no waterproofing whatsoever! Can't see me being here to finish this one