chiselled edge trav, sizey

[tommyzooom]

My usual tile shop has a new supplier of trav, It seems better quality stone, but is chiselled edged instead of tumbled, and odd sized
I've laid some out in a french pattern and they haven't allowed for the width of the joints, they are 24x16,16x16, 16x8 and 8x8 exactly:mad2:

Is there a different pattern that you use if you come across this?
Do you keep these tiles close together,I reckon they could be laid with a 2mm joint, of course, the chisselled edge,when grouted, will look much wider will it not?(grey grout to be used)
This is them
Andrew

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

you need to have a much bigger gap on these tiles 6 mm if you are mixing different sizes i would lay them out starting with the biggest work the tiles round this gets to form a repeat interlocking pattern always comming back on it self. most tile shops that sell this kind of tile should have a pattern book for you to follow .never liked these tiles my self .grout always gets dirty but iam told this is the rustick look

 

[hillhead]

Nothing as bad Andrew, a pain.
I'v seen me using 3mm spacers lately instead of 2mm.
Chiseled always looks wider when grouted anyway.

 

[tommyzooom]

Ray,
I have the french pattern, as recommended.
a wider joint throws it all out worse, and a 6mm joint, when grouted with the chiselled edge, will look 12mm wide though?

 

[hillhead]

Wet saw and hammer could come in handy.
Not what you want to hear though or customer pay for.

 

[tommyzooom]

So would you normally lay these with a 2mm joint Joe?
I'm just so used to laying the previous trav, with rounded edges, with a 5mm gap which worked out perfectly re pattern
It looks really tight, but I guess I won't know until its grouted

 

[hillhead]

I just lay the small pattern down dry and see what space has been allowed, i be happy to see 3mm to 5mm but with yours being so tight you can either cut down certain sizes or go with 2mm and play about with the joints, not nice to be doing this though.

 

[tommyzooom]

Aye, thats what I do,

I dont fancy having to cut and dress all the tiles, the 16x8s anyway (these always seem the worst)

 

[hillhead]

You want a lend of my sigma 10M ? :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

it must be a london thing always been asked for a wider joint have laid hundreds of m2 of these very popualr 10 years a go normaly ivory grout . if you lay these at 2 mm joints and you find they get a bit sizey you will find your self stuggling to keep floor square. tip get six of each tile push them tight together and check the square if 2 mm out add this to your grout joint. check first fix once

 

[tommyzooom]

Tiles are not sizey as such Ray, They are all the same size and perfectly square, it's just no allowance has been left for a grout joint when they are placed in the pattern, a wider joint only exacerbates the problem,
I start tommorow so see how I get on

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

good luck let us now how you get on :8: ps if tiles are modlar the next pattern will bring back the grout jionts once you have a few patterns down you will see this

 

[DHTiling]

Just lay them by eye. You can only open the joints as far as interlocking tiles allow , normally around 4mm ish. The smaller tiles, just close up and when grouted you can't tell with the chiseled edge.

 

[tommyzooom]

Yeh that's what I was thinking Dave, I'll see how I get on tomorrow

 

[tommyzooom]

Ok, so I think I was worried unnecessarily. I think it will turn out ok (wont know for sure until its grouted). I laid them with a 2-3mm joint,
I even reduced the tiles by 20mm and redressed them where they go through the door to help the layout in the next room
Lovely stone though

 

[Alan.P]

Had a very similar 'problem' a couple of years ago, like yourself, worried for nothing and the chiselled edge looks great when grouted.

Don't forget the pics of the finished job

 

[tommyzooom]

Oops, nearly forgot finished pics, though most of the floor is covered in cardboard