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jonnyc
think its better i keep my posts in forums arms.
was looking at a thread re quality of paddles which struck a chord with me re deteriorating quality of tools.
I have serious issues with buckets/pencils/and levels but will stick to pencils in this thread.
I used to use rexel gren pencils for years until i could take no more about ten years ago, as the quality had deteriorated so much.
they were a good product for many years and then comes a time when you strat sharpening them and you are half way througfh apencil in a day with the lead just breaking.
same to be said for diy store pencils and any others i could find .
but then eureka.
i found the lyra 331 profi stonemasons pencil.
I am not a rep for lyra but these pencils are amazing, or rather i should say thay are like what pencils used to be like many years ago.
i know you are not all stonefixers , but i think they are good for marking most tiles.
you can buy these for 86p each inc vat from axminster tools. they are 300mm long so you can cut them in half if you want and still be cheaper than a green rexel and get two for price of one.
but when it comes to longevity of use they outscore rexel by at least 20 times and then factor by two for one and a no brainer.
the other pencil i have found and did alot of research on this, is the faber castell grip 2001 2.5 hb.which you can get from stationers but peter strauss catalogue sell them in boxes of 12 for very good price.,
I actually supply these for all the guys on my most regular site at cost which eliminates my own going missing?
bit softer but very long lasting and all the chippies swear by them. they would not touch another make.
one of the beauties of these pencils is that they are very rarely on sites, so if you see somone with one you know where its come from!!
the sad part to this story is that both these products are made in germany i believe.
we built this once great nation on quality that was not replicated elsewhere.
look at all the great tiling products on the market now and so many originate from germany.
if anyone can come up with a better pencil i would love to know and would love to submit these to rexel to test against their own make.
i have complained over and over but they insist their quality is as good as ever was. i suspect their turnover of product is certainly higher for a simple reason!!!
will do athread on best levels tomorrow as thsi is my other biggest bugbear
was looking at a thread re quality of paddles which struck a chord with me re deteriorating quality of tools.
I have serious issues with buckets/pencils/and levels but will stick to pencils in this thread.
I used to use rexel gren pencils for years until i could take no more about ten years ago, as the quality had deteriorated so much.
they were a good product for many years and then comes a time when you strat sharpening them and you are half way througfh apencil in a day with the lead just breaking.
same to be said for diy store pencils and any others i could find .
but then eureka.
i found the lyra 331 profi stonemasons pencil.
I am not a rep for lyra but these pencils are amazing, or rather i should say thay are like what pencils used to be like many years ago.
i know you are not all stonefixers , but i think they are good for marking most tiles.
you can buy these for 86p each inc vat from axminster tools. they are 300mm long so you can cut them in half if you want and still be cheaper than a green rexel and get two for price of one.
but when it comes to longevity of use they outscore rexel by at least 20 times and then factor by two for one and a no brainer.
the other pencil i have found and did alot of research on this, is the faber castell grip 2001 2.5 hb.which you can get from stationers but peter strauss catalogue sell them in boxes of 12 for very good price.,
I actually supply these for all the guys on my most regular site at cost which eliminates my own going missing?
bit softer but very long lasting and all the chippies swear by them. they would not touch another make.
one of the beauties of these pencils is that they are very rarely on sites, so if you see somone with one you know where its come from!!
the sad part to this story is that both these products are made in germany i believe.
we built this once great nation on quality that was not replicated elsewhere.
look at all the great tiling products on the market now and so many originate from germany.
if anyone can come up with a better pencil i would love to know and would love to submit these to rexel to test against their own make.
i have complained over and over but they insist their quality is as good as ever was. i suspect their turnover of product is certainly higher for a simple reason!!!
will do athread on best levels tomorrow as thsi is my other biggest bugbear
