do you think the economy will pick up after the elections??

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

my frend does, he thinks it will go mad after the elections, and we have a new team in!!!, i hope he's right!!:hurray::hurray:

 

[DHTiling]

Gone mad already here...

 

[Stu Lilley]

busy down here too....i dont know if an election will make it any busier?

 

[enduro]

my frend does, he thinks it will go mad after the elections, and we have a new team in!!!, i hope he's right!!:hurray::hurray:

Who is your friend...David Cameron..:lol:

 

[White Room]

Here a few guys down my getting busier

 

[Stan001]

No I don’t.
This recession will last at least another two years whilst our governments fight to stabilise our economy.
Right now we see a seasonal increase as the costs of xmas and the costs of summer are behind and ahead of our customers. The run up to spring is traditionally a time when people spend on housing.
The UK is massively in debt and getting deeper into debt, in fact far deeper than any of the other G7 nations, this means we can’t compete on equal terms against our foreign competitors. The executives who we as trades sell to will be rarer and more careful. They are not guaranteed their jobs, there is a financial food chain, and we are near the bottom. The best and the niche operators will survive but the good days have gone for quite some time.
The next lot (whether they be Labour or Tory) will introduce us all to more cost cuts and an increase in taxation – they have no choice.
So specifically what is tiling worth in the new economy?
Anything of value is generally comprised of the sum of its cost parts plus an xfactor type of value (a market perception of value, in product terms an ipod is worth more than simply an mp3 player, in company terms this is called goodwill and is very hard to measure), the value we provide as a trade (trade tillers, some trade plumbers, some trade bathroom fitters here) will be capped (i.e. what the customer is willing to pay) as it is defined as being worth less of a the total whole (a house, a refurb, a new kitchen or bathroom).
House prices are predicted to remain flat for the foreseeable future. I see no reason why the price of tiling and the amount of tiling work will not remain flat to meet that lack of demand.

Some data from globalresearch last month:
UK Debt Crisis Deepens as Government Plans to Borrow Another £510 billion
The Labour government announced in the recent Queens speech with much fanfare a LAW to halve the public sector net deficit over the next 4 years. Let’s leave aside for the moment that the Labour party is confusing calling an objective a law for purely political electioneering purposes in an attempt to place a burden around the next Conservative governments neck. The objective of the Law is to halve the deficit and NOT to pay down the total accumulating debt. What this amounts to is that the annual budget deficit of approx £185 billion for 2009/10 being halved to an annual deficit of approx £93 billion by 2013/14 which suggests Britain’s National debt is expected to increase by a further £510 billion to an approximate total of £1,300 trillion or 100% of GDP by 2013/14.

Incidentally I don’t actually think this is bad for pro-tilers (the good ones will survive) or DIYers (who will see product costs held down).

 

[enduro]

:lol:

No I don’t.
This recession will last at least another two years whilst our governments fight to stabilise our economy.
Right now we see a seasonal increase as the costs of xmas and the costs of summer are behind and ahead of our customers. The run up to spring is traditionally a time when people spend on housing.
The UK is massively in debt and getting deeper into debt, in fact far deeper than any of the other G7 nations, this means we can’t compete on equal terms against our foreign competitors. The executives who we as trades sell to will be rarer and more careful. They are not guaranteed their jobs, there is a financial food chain, and we are near the bottom. The best and the niche operators will survive but the good days have gone for quite some time.
The next lot (whether they be Labour or Tory) will introduce us all to more cost cuts and an increase in taxation – they have no choice.
So specifically what is tiling worth in the new economy?
Anything of value is generally comprised of the sum of its cost parts plus an xfactor type of value (a market perception of value, in product terms an ipod is worth more than simply an mp3 player, in company terms this is called goodwill and is very hard to measure), the value we provide as a trade (trade tillers, some trade plumbers, some trade bathroom fitters here) will be capped (i.e. what the customer is willing to pay) as it is defined as being worth less of a the total whole (a house, a refurb, a new kitchen or bathroom).
House prices are predicted to remain flat for the foreseeable future. I see no reason why the price of tiling and the amount of tiling work will not remain flat to meet that lack of demand.

Some data from globalresearch last month:
UK Debt Crisis Deepens as Government Plans to Borrow Another £510 billion
The Labour government announced in the recent Queens speech with much fanfare a LAW to halve the public sector net deficit over the next 4 years. Let’s leave aside for the moment that the Labour party is confusing calling an objective a law for purely political electioneering purposes in an attempt to place a burden around the next Conservative governments neck. The objective of the Law is to halve the deficit and NOT to pay down the total accumulating debt. What this amounts to is that the annual budget deficit of approx £185 billion for 2009/10 being halved to an annual deficit of approx £93 billion by 2013/14 which suggests Britain’s National debt is expected to increase by a further £510 billion to an approximate total of £1,300 trillion or 100% of GDP by 2013/14.

Incidentally I don’t actually think this is bad for pro-tilers (the good ones will survive) or DIYers (who will see product costs held down).

Is that a no then...:lol:

 

[gm140]

Well that certainly cured my insomnia, good-night:lol:

Graeme
ETL Pro Tiling

 

[Stan001]

Admit it guys – if I’d had just posted ‘ no I don’t ’ you’d have PM’d me enquiring after my health.

 

[DHTiling]

Admit it guys – if I’d had just posted ‘ no I don’t ’ you’d have PM’d me enquiring after my health.

Probably stan...:lol:

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

nice one stan, i just imagined you comming out with that to me and the other guy we would have been stunned!!!:lol::lol::lol: good man!!

 

[Dan]

This recession will last at least another two years whilst our governments fight to stabilise our economy.

You will never see another housing boom (and that's what caused tilers, and plenty of them, to earn a lot, along with other trades) like this, ever.

I don't think we'll ever see the same as we did in 2007, ever.

2 years? Nah, 2 years for them to sort out a plan. I think my grandchildren will still be paying our debt off so the bankers grandchildren can live happily.

5% of the population run 95% of the money in the world. That's just got harder to gain back for us 95% that have to really struggle to live.

A good read for those interested in how the world really works:-

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man, by John Perkins--the shocking real-life story of how America built an empire on third world debt

 

[Ajax123]

Simple answer - No - particularly not for the construction industry. :yikes:

Stan001 already did the long answer

 

[Aston]

every time this world has faced a crisis, somewhere along the line the balance is addressed and its no different than now....we will pull through this because we HAVE TOO there is no choice...i am not going to hang around for things to change. its up to us to change it because the people are the economy and if we fight and get back that pride,and determination and quality that once made the uk the greatest empire in the world!! then we can do it again because we've done it before..

less will become the new more!! maybe there will be less work an less money but maybe we wont need as much and maybe we'll have time again for the things that really matter in the world and the things that make the quality of our lives even better...makes ya think doesnt it?

 

[Stan001]

That is the best posting I’ve read in a long while – excellent words.
I worked for years earning high and sitting in Heathrow at 6am driving spreadsheets. Now I build houses and tile and spend more time with my family and get the greatest of pleasure from a simple coffee by the beach alongside my motorbike. Financially smarter? ... no way! ... smarter – absolutely! Happier – yes.

Aston – that was perfect – so I’ll cut and paste repeat it.
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less will become the new more!! maybe there will be less work an less money but maybe we wont need as much and maybe we'll have time again for the things that really matter in the world and the things that make the quality of our lives even better