Expansion Joints- Floor Restaurant

[dynamictiling]

Hi guys,

I am really after a second(third fourth or fifth!) opinion, with regards to expansion joints. Having mostly done commercial work for A De Cecco, Tedesco's. I am used to referring to an architects drawing with expansion joints, sizes, specs etc.

However I have just over a 400m2 concrete floor to tile. I don't know exact tiles or tile specs, as they haven't arrived on site (they are coming from overseas). One thing I do know though, is that a floor of this size will need expansion trim throughout, least given the fact it has sat unoccupied for several years, no heating, etc.

I have attached a rough sketch of the floor plan. I was planning on x.p joints minimum every 5 metres in each direction. The drawings are only a rough sketch. I have yet to finalise the sizes, so it could very well change. More than likely at the main entrance, as I wont accept an x.p joint running right down the middle of it.

However I welcome peoples views, opinions and experiences of what they think on this one?
Thanks in advance

 

[Saltire69]

Could u not push expansion joints to 6/7m so it would move the one at main entrance.
Move the one in the middle to run inline with the booths?

 

[dynamictiling]

It is just a rough sketch of where I was thinking of putting them. As far as I am aware they have to be no than 5 metres apart? Not sure if someone can confirm that or not? Lastly I will need to take sizes of it. Start this on Tuesday coming, really need to get my finger out and sort this.

 

[Saltire69]

Think the longest run you can have is 8 x 8m .

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

Maximum 8 metre runs between movement joints as far as I'm aware

 

[Just Rizzle]

are u decoupling this project?

 

[dynamictiling]

No. The main reason being the concrete floor has been down at least 20 years. No cracks or any nastys running through it. Solid sound floor. No ufh going down. Secondly cost.

 

[Just Rizzle]

No. The main reason being the concrete floor has been down at least 20 years. No cracks or any nastys running through it. Solid sound floor. No ufh going down. Secondly cost.

one of the reasons for expansion joints is settlement you say the floor has been down 20 yrs I would tile and run in a silicone joint every 6 to 8mtrs

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

I use mastic for movement joints too.......more on big domestic jobs and Schluter expansion joints on commercial stuff

 

[dynamictiling]

one of the reasons for expansion joints is settlement you say the floor has been down 20 yrs I would tile and run in a silicone joint every 6 to 8mtrs

The only downside of that would be it is a restaurant floor, so there will be medium to heavy foot traffic on it. Over time the silicone will deteriorate, were as the thinking behind the expansion trim is minimum up keep.

 

[dynamictiling]

At long last the tiles have arrived!!!! (customs held them, they came from china)

started the job today. Saturday, Easter weekend not ideal but needs must. Just over 50m2 for a Saturday shift is good going. Tiles aren't the nicest but I never picked them. Ended up going for a "cross" style with expansion.

 

[dynamictiling]

It has been a while since my last update. As you can imagine, I have got my hands full with this job. Anyhow the job is going well. Pretty much got the big floor tied up. Three bathrooms, several columns, an entrance- walls and floor and a 40 metre outside wall still to complete, but we are getting there!

On another note I am the guy in the black t shirt, last picture. Caught in a rare moment actually doing some work haha

 

[Italy]

It has been a while since my last update. As you can imagine, I have got my hands full with this job. Anyhow the job is going well. Pretty much got the big floor tied up. Three bathrooms, several columns, an entrance- walls and floor and a 40 metre outside wall still to complete, but we are getting there!

On another note I am the guy in the black t shirt, last picture. Caught in a rare moment actually doing some work haha

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in Italy I've never seen so installation.
good job. next job using.
try the same module.

 

[dynamictiling]

This job finished about two weeks ago. There is still many other things to be done now. hopefully come the end of next week I will have the final pictures of the place done and dusted. All final fixtures and fittings are being complete. This will be a beauty when it is done! I went down today for a sneek peak!

 

[Old Mod]

Those wc wall tiles are a sight to behold! Haha

 

[dynamictiling]

Well here is the finished article! Four weeks all in this took. Just shy of 700 metres of wall and floor tiling. I am surprised and delighted to announce that there was only 3 tiles (I know only three!!!!) that needed replaced due to the large 2+ton buffet machines being moved into position. All in all a great job with a few more in the pipe line.

just a wee add, yes all tile trim was mitred for this one. Personally I find mitring slower but easier than cutting trim straight.

I am hoping to get all the pics uploaded to my website in the next few days.
www.dynamictiling.com

 

[dynamictiling]

Just a wee edit#

There was a huge amount of tiling added to this job, which took nearly a week and a half in itself!!!

 

[White Room]

How many tilers did you have on the job ?

 

[dynamictiling]

Minimum manning level was 2 tilers and a labourer. When the bathrooms started I had four tilers on site. After starting the job (a week in) the job grow arms and legs and nearly doubled in size. Meanwhile I had 3 bathroom renewals and several kitchens to get through.

The main floor was myself and another tiler and labourer. 5 days to complete tiled and grouted.