floating floor

[kilty55]

lo all,i have an old customer asking me to tile his new extension which is being built in december

the floors floating and he claims it will be fine to tile,i dont generally touch floating floors however if its a new extension they have a blank canvas to work with,is there any spec i can get them to add to make this floor much stronger? not really come across this as of yet

 

[doug boardley]

why do they want a floater Jamie?

 

[kilty55]

no idea doug,i think this is what the builder is suggesting in the plans

 

[kilty55]

he also said the builder says you can tile on it lol,to which i replied i would look into this to see if there is any way we can get a certain spec to him for a floating floor,,i only asked as i think i remember seeing something on here few days ago about spec for floating floors and how to make them stronger but i cant find it

 

[Andy Allen]

why dont they just screed the floor?

 

[DHTiling]

lo all,i have an old customer asking me to tile his new extension which is being built in december

the floors floating and he claims it will be fine to tile,i dont generally touch floating floors however if its a new extension they have a blank canvas to work with,is there any spec i can get them to add to make this floor much stronger? not really come across this as of yet

Yes.. Screed it..:lol:

 

[Time's Ran Out]

why do they want a floater Jamie?

I always thought that was something that wouldn't flush away!:smilewinkgrin:
Still if you've got the chance to change the specification, the customer will appreciate it later on.

 

[chrisroe]

floating floor in my world = Karndean or i dont touch it

 

[david campbell]

don't be mad jamie,get him to change the floor or bodyswerve it

 

[Daz]

My advice would be to get the customer to screed, if possible. However, I'll put my hands up and admit that I have tiled a couple of floating floors.

One was 35sqm with a 3 tile porcelain pattern and the other was a 3 tile pattern with 25mm thick sandstone. The porcelain floor was over a year ago and I am still receiving recommendations from the customer. In both cases I insisted on overboarding with "No More Ply" and I used Ardex 7001 (tile to wood, super dooper flexible) adhesive. It should also be noted that the floors had been previously tiled prior to the customers engaging my services.

 

[ChrisKemp]

builder is technically correct - you can tile on to a existing floating floor if you take the necessary precautions -overboarding, checking load bearing capacity, etc. - but why he would specify a floating floor knowing the client wants tiles is a strange one. I'm with the rest of you on this - screed it should be.

 

[doug boardley]

builder is technically correct - you can tile on to a existing floating floor if you take the necessary precautions -overboarding, checking load bearing capacity, etc. - but why he would specify a floating floor knowing the client wants tiles is a strange one. I'm with the rest of you on this - screed it should be.

how will overboarding negate any deflection in a floating floor?

 

[ChrisKemp]

Won't negate deflection and the type of 'floating floor' will determine what improvement in rigidity and control of local movement can be found. Worked with a german/turkish team last year in Sofia where existing floors were 22m TG chipboard, glued, overboarded with a 12mm construction cement board (could have been external aquapanel), and a 2 part flexible, adhesive used. It wasn't the first they had done - these were referrals from previous job in the same apartment block. Had a look at one they did two or three years before and it appeared to be holding up OK. But when its still at planning stage like the original post stated, its clearly better to get the client to specify screed.

 

[jay]

Kilty whats the make up of the floating floor if you dont mind as there are a few different versions around

 

[redlee]

Obviously its best if its screeded but if the builders dead set against it see if he'd be willing to put thin joists in to secure the chipboard, if not and you've pointed out the possible future problems to the customer and the builder and you can't afford to turn work down then i'd be inclined to do it.
I thought lateral movement of the whole floor rather than deflection was the problem with floating floors?