g-mat problem

[ellmas]

Hello Tilers, i often visit this site in search of info but dont often post, i have a problem with genesis g-matting, i have just read some posts on another tiling forum about gmat faliure as i did over 200m jan2011 in two houses for a builder and have had to go back several times mainly the crunching sound, the grout is not cracking but this is still not exceptable, when i have changed any it seems like the fleece is debonding from the matt i am feeling that i will never be rid of this situation and its going to cost thousand to put right, i will talking to a rep tomorrow, i know other people have experienced this problem and that genesis stopped selling it, i did read that it was because the slicone that bonds the fleece was failing and this seems to be the case, sorry if this message is rambled but any help welcomed.

Many thanks

Martin.​

 

[Ajax123]

Think genesis came up with a resin injection method for dealing with this known issue with their mat. Dural had the same problems and redesigned the mat.

 

[Spud]

Its an industry wide product failure not just genesis they were buying their uncoupling mat from a manufacturer in Germany same manufacturer was producing mats for Dural,and Blanke it seems that all of these brands have had failures such as you describe

 

[DHTiling]

Genesis did not come up with anything...

How ever Dural uk did with their version of this matting and have since changed design and manufacturer...

martin, you are bang on, yes the polythylene is debonding from the fleece and it is the adhering system used the factory that is failing, as far as i know Genesis are doing nothing to fix it... they might be now , so do check with your rep...

 

[ellmas]

thanks for your quick responce, the resin sounds better than having to keep smashing them up.

 

[Ajax123]

Genesis did not come up with anything...

How ever Dural uk did with their version of this matting and have since changed design and manufacturer...

martin, you are bang on, yes the polythylene is debonding from the fleece and it is the adhering system used the factory that is failing, as far as i know Genesis are doing nothing to fix it... they might be now , so do check with your rep...

Ah.. Cheers dave. Thought it was tother way round.... My memory is not what it was. Seen a few dural failures but no genesis ones personally although I knew they were there.

 

[ellmas]

many thanks for your posts, i think gary it was one of your old posts i was reading ealier so you may have another message from me via your website.

 

[DHTiling]

Ah.. Cheers dave. Thought it was tother way round.... My memory is not what it was. Seen a few dural failures but no genesis ones personally although I knew they were there.

I had one with Dural and they sorted it ASAP..

 

[Dan]

Haven't heard about this problem for a long long time! Probably was about Jan 2011 actually!

 

[Spud]

many thanks for your posts, i think gary it was one of your old posts i was reading ealier so you may have another message from me via your website.

give me a call tomorrow you can get my phone number from my web page , I have Mike Mccann's phone number somewhere he is Md of Genesis he might shed some light on it for you