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tiler1000

When we're either supplying or installing we always make the point of using the best quality tiles and fixing materials. This way we find you can easily give a 4 year guarantee for our work. We always let it be known though that the majority of problems after half a year come from the preparation being sub standard. If the prep is done right with the right materials then guarantees for your work can be used as a really good re assurance to your customers. We usually try to make a point of doing our own prep so we know its done correctly but if some one has bodged the preperation of the surfaces then there is not alot can be done. We make sure all that is written in our T and C on the invoice.
 
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mikethetile

Very good point :thumbsup: Yes quote and invoice. Having said in the previous post that we are able to give a 4 year guarantee if requested we usually have a standard 2 year guarantee as most customers are happy with that. Like i say though, the horror stories you hear always seem to come from the guys who cut corners or try to make a quick buck.
your not wrong there tiler and have you have already stated if you do the job right from the start you can offer long guarantees with confidence

another problem is lack of experiance some tilers simply dont know better
 
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sriel1

On the footer of my quotation sheets it states that all work is guaranteed, although doesn't actually state for how long. When I'm asked how long the guarantee is for, I tend to judge the job on its own merits and the condition of the house overall. Houses in need of maintenance could be a higher risk of having problems so if asked I'd give them a 1 or 2 year guarantee - although never in writing. However I'm pretty sure I've lost a few jobs because I didn't give a written guarantees.
 
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tiler1000

I always find it best to give them a standard guarantee for my own work but explain that it is just that 'my own work' If your following on from some cowboy builder the first person to be called will be you. As you are supplying the finish this is where the problems will become visible. If you are not confident of the substrate my advice is to either avoid it or get them to sign a disclaimer, as you do have a responsibility to make sure the surface your tiling on to is suitable. As long as you do your job by the book then you can be reasonably confident that any problems that may occur can be explained. I know you mention older 'high risk' properties but new builds can also be a minefield, if a builder has done something wrong you can be certain he'll try blame you for any problems that become visible in the tiling. Worst culprit being trying to floors or walls tiled before fresh substrates have had time to dry out, always find out when previous works have been carried out and use un coupling membranes etc wherever necessary. If they need a written guarantee you can be confident enough to give them it, it's a shame to lose work but if the customer isn't prepared to do it properly to save money then avoid it like the plague, usually the people who'll call you up on it afterwards Hope this helps.
 

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workmanship has to be conducive to offering a product or service that is fit for purpose and remains so for a "reasonable" period.

In terms of statutory rights of customers it make little or no difference what term of guarantee you put on either workmanship or the materials. As a supplier of a specialist product and/or service you have to ensure that the resulting work conforms to what a court would deem to be reasonable.

In terms of tiling being a semi permanent fixture I would have thought a reasonable term would be very very considerably longer than 1 year. If I spent several thousands of pounds on a tiled floor and it failed after little more than 12 months I would have no hesitation but to insist the tiler sorted it out.

I do know that when I supply screeds by implication they have to offer a life expectancy to conform to the reasonable life of the building. I have had to write guarantees in the past for anything from 12 years (Standard PFI snagging term) and 100 years (standard design life for domestic dwellings)

I think I would be a bit insulted and indeed put off my a tiler who was telling me his workmanship and if appropriate his materials were only likely to last 1 year.
 

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