How to calculate tiles required for Floors with borders

[baht'at]

Hi all.
Went to price up for a bathroom this evening and as about to leave the customer asked if could also give a price to tile the Hall way and once I had measured up she then showed me the attached picture and said she would quiet like it to look like the photo.
Can any one give advise please regarding how to or point in the right direction for information regarding how you start to work out how many of the different tile you would need to be able to reproduce a floor similar to the attached.
Does any one know of any sites that also give guidance on how to set out and lay tiles like this one
All sensible advice appreciated.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

This is amazing!

 

[White Room]

This is amazing!

I'd prefer a geo floor TJ....

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I'd prefer a geo floor TJ....

It's amazing - that someone could contemplate undertaking this work without any knowledge!!
But only sensible advice is wanted.

 

[MTiler]

Pass the job onto someone who does this stuff all the time and knows exactly what theyre doing. Its a lot of setting out.
Perhaps see if theyd be happy for you to work along side them.
Sometimes you just have to pass jobs on.

 

[baht'at]

This isn't the pattern she'd prefer,the centre tiles were like leaves in a block of 4 making the centre up but she does like the overall layout.
Haveing spent a while searching the net I do know it is not going to be straight forward.

 

[baht'at]

Thanks for the responses.
Firstly i was only trying to find how to work out quantities so they then could go and get an idea on what it was likely to cost just for the tiles.
Secondly I am not afraid to say No to a job if beyond my capacities but we have all wanted to or have tried to lean some thing new. All I am trying to find out just how complex some thing would be to do.
Even those who specialise in this type of flooring had to start some where.

 

[wau5]

Exactly, that floor looks amazing and if there's someone paying enough to do it you would be a fool not to do it to learn new stuff Planing out everything looks the hardest part.

 

[Andy Allen]

Maybe not best to learn at someone else's expense though....

 

[WetSaw]

You're the resident expert at estimating quantities aren't you @Andy Allen ?

 

[Bill]

It is easy....just template the floor with lines or a CAD computing program.

Note how many internal/external (or you could be lucky so that they reverse - these look like square tiles with a pattern on so this would be easy to calculate) angles there are, then use your field tile to determine the extent of the field pattern so that gives you the perimeter of the outside border tile. The tile to the wall is a filler tile.... this can be used to help keep the border and field tile looking as symmetrical as poss.

 

[MTiler]

Thanks for the responses.
Firstly i was only trying to find how to work out quantities so they then could go and get an idea on what it was likely to cost just for the tiles.
Secondly I am not afraid to say No to a job if beyond my capacities but we have all wanted to or have tried to lean some thing new. All I am trying to find out just how complex some thing would be to do.
Even those who specialise in this type of flooring had to start some where.

True but they wouldve started small, learn to walk before you can run.

 

[Dan]

Just out of interest what kinda shape is her floor? Because that one looks like a magazine type photo shoot to show the tile. Seems quite evenly spaced for that tile size etc. Your actual fooor probably isn't. And that makes it a bit of a minefield.

Checkout the Victoria floor tiling category (Victorian Floor Tiles - http://www.tilersforums.com/media/categories/victorian-floor-tiles.6/ )and you will see some of timeless johns and Phil Hobson's floors. And pics part done. I wouldn't contemplate it unless I was doing my own floor so I could risk bodging it.

 

[baht'at]

The floor space is very similar to the illustration.
The customer went tile hunting over the weekend and sent a text saying wasn't expecting the tiles to be so expensive so it is now on the back burner for the time being.
Thanks to every one for responding