Lets have this clear

[High Peak Tiling]

Hi guys.
this is a side track to a new members advice thread.

This goes out to you Profs...
I hear a lot of you find ready mixed addy, tubbed adhesive to be expensive against its brother (powdered)
A lot of you prefer powdered adhesive over readymixed.. due to it properties price etc etc & personal choice.

But being a personal choice of my own and following the Professional adhesive companies product data specification sheets doesn't make me wrong to use or advise on these terms.

 

[bugs183]

No ones saying we are always right and yes it's your choice, but those company recommendations (which i've only looked at today, btw) in my opinion are really not that good. In fact they need to be addressed.
It has amazed me to see the spec sheets advising tubbed with tanking kits, and also no mention of suitablity of adhesive for tile choice.
Anyone could download those, follow the specs to the letter and install porcelain or large format tiles in a wet area.
Totally asking for trouble, as the adhesive will not dry properly due to the moisture in the adhesive having nowhere to go.

 

[High Peak Tiling]

The info they provide doesn't specify. I think the data sheets should be readily available for trade only

 

[mattle40]

Completely agree buggs :-/
But when this is the advise the manufacturers give what hope is there???

 

[AliGage]

They're drastically out of date. Written in the days where if you wanted a bit more pressure in your shower you'd install a power shower off your tank or cylinder.

 

[AliGage]

The info they provide doesn't specify. I think the data sheets should be readily available for trade only

Personally i think tubbed adhesive is aimed at the DIY market rather than trade.

 

[bugs183]

Sometimes there is nothing that years of experience cannot replace, i always look at all the data sheets and reserve some judgment these days, as there are lots of manufacturers promising lots of things that their products cannot possibly deliver.
But i am amazed at these data being so behind the times.
This is where forums like this really shows its value as our collective experience and opinions can sometimes be more helpful than what the manufacturers are telling us.

 

[Daveshadowman]

Most of my work is new build houses and I have to use what is spec ed by the qs most of the time it is tub/ready mixed

 

[White Room]

Most of my work is new build houses and I have to use what is spec ed by the qs most of the time it is tub/ready mixed

Same as, never used any powdered addy on site for walls, not even shower rooms gets any powdered gear....

 

[bugs183]

Personally i think tubbed adhesive is aimed at the DIY market rather than trade.

I dunno, tubbed does have its day. If your using small (less than 200x200) Ceramic tiles in a non wet area then why not use tubbed, some of it like Biscem Showerproof is fab for days like that, its good value for money and you get some free buckets out of the deal, but how often do we tile in that style. In fact it even called Biscem anymore it's been so long!!!!
If it's large format, porcelain, in wet areas, on waterproofing or any combination of these then really it's just comman sense to go with cement based. And these days it's a huge percentage of the work done.

 

[Dougs Third Go]

Most of my work is new build houses and I have to use what is spec ed by the qs most of the time it is tub/ready mixed

point the QS to the forum mate. I know QS's are glorified bean counters but using dispersion addy really is a false economy and unlike powdered addy unsuitable for modern day methods and materials.

 

[AliGage]

Agreed bugs. I use it on kitchen splashs and that's about it. With stone cheaper and more readily available and formats getting bigger and bigger tubbed gear is pretty much redundant now.

 

[bugs183]

I did see the best use of a tub of Bal Green Star i've ever seen yesterday in Topps Tiles Cheltenham:

It was propping their door open!!!!!

 

[Ajax123]

Tubbed addy... Why buy water when you can mix it yourself?