life expectancy of tiles on a floating/chipboard floor??

[Ceramico tiling]

Hi all

I recently did a job that is doomed to fail,and would like to see how long you guys give it till it fails.
I advised the contractor in detail how completely wrong it was but they did not want to hear it and I needed the work so I did it anyway.

Basically its ceramic tiles 30x30 on a (moisture resistant)chipboard floor.Which is floating on 75mm of insulation.

Used basic flex rapid from Tops.Bal grout PVA for priming

I recon the grout will be gone in a month and the tiles will come up within a year.

Am I wrong?

 

[kilty55]

hi yes it sounds like a failure in waiting and wrong materials used also

regardless of how much you needed the money if it fails you could be pursued by the main contractor for compensation to sort this do you know that?

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

I think a cheque clears in three days, I would get it in rapid mate.:yikes:

 

[DHTiling]

Make sure you feed your horse and clean your spurs..:frown2:

 

[peckers]

You needed the money, but did you outway the cost off having to replace it when it fails, after all you did the job and that is all the contractor will have to say on the matter, except that when it does fail he will say"I contracted in a tiler to do the job and he done it" and in the eyes off the home owner and the law, you were the tiler and you should have known better!
Besides that it is your name that every one will be talking about as bad installs go round like wild fire

 

[Ceramico tiling]

Its one of the larger construction companies and they are doing this to a small block of newbuid flats..I am not the only tiler onsite.My concerns were raised to the engineer on site(chief or whatever he was) he made a few calls and the "big boss",said this set-up had been done to his home and had been down for 7 years. I cant see them holding me responsible.
I know its wrong but its better than not paying the morgage.

 

[Stewart]

It is doomed to fail and another example of needing an income outweighing the ethics of doing a proper install. Should the builder have put you in that position... No he shouldn't and without regulation, you'll probably do it again next week for the same builder.


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[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

I know what you are saying about paying the mortgage mate, but I have just noticed the Henry Ford quote in your signature. Wise man was Henry.

 

[Perry]

Its one of the larger construction companies and they are doing this to a small block of newbuid flats..I am not the only tiler onsite.My concerns were raised to the engineer on site(chief or whatever he was) he made a few calls and the "big boss",said this set-up had been done to his home and had been down for 7 years. I cant see them holding me responsible.
I know its wrong but its better than not paying the morgage.

I can understand why you have done it most of the big builders know best and we all have to eat

 

[finlay]

i can understand why you did the job it might not be right but if you told everyone involved and they said tile it surely paying the morgage feeding the kids has to come first ,some tilers might never have been put in that situation and its easy to say they wouldnt do it but until it happens to you you will never know .

 

[The D]

Some times we have to prostitute our selves. We don’t like it but we have to do it. Hopefully you will find your self in a better position soon.

 

[Ceramico tiling]

Yes,,, maintaining tiling standards and the bills is difficult as a tiler.Hopefully it gets easier over time...else I better learn some plumbing lol

With regards to the job on my post I will be cutting it short after these replys..Luckily a builder I know has a couple of bathrooms for me.

 

[nybor62]

not a good position to be in when you need work , i just hope all the floors fail , it will teach the builders a lesson they need to learn, but i also hope it dont come back to haunt you , for doing the job when you knew it was wrong

 

[Stewart]

To be honest, I don't care if it bites the tiler in the butt or the developer/contractor, as they know exactly what they're doing. It's the end customer that will have to suffer, because peeps decided not to follow the guidelines!


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[MTiler]

Even if the mortgage needs paying I dont think Its worth risking doing a job like that. Im in the same situation at the mo and I went to see a job last week. The customer didnt want to pay much and asked if I could better another quote. If it was a straight forward job I might have been tempted to get some money in but the deal breaker for me was the prep the customer had attempted, all totally wrong. Not worth it.

 

[redlee]

Glad to hear you've got off this job, it's a bad position to be in when the choice is do it wrong or dont get paid. The responsibility should be the developers as they are the ones speccing the job. It would be nice if morals put food on the table.

 

[Bolter]

I subcontract, and went to a job the other day. The ladies bathroom floor had 15mm ply laid on it, but the plumber cut a large square out (maybe 1m x 1m) and refixed it with a few screws. The second I walked in the room, I could hear movement. I told the lady about it, and she was very worried. Was talking about putting lino down instead or something like that.

I was happy with that as we were not being paid for any preparation work, and I was instructed to not do any as it should have been done prior to us arriving. This tells me the guy running the job is doing it as cheap as possible.

So anyway, I start tiling the walls, and the lady comes upstairs with the contractor, and he says to me "Im on holiday on sunday for 3 weeks, if the floor isnt tiled, they wont have a toilet for 3 weeks." so I told him what needed doing to stiffen the floor substrate, and he cut me short like I was boring him, and told me "am I not using the special orange matting?" to which I replied that I would be, but its not magic and this floor in its current state would reject its tiles in under a few days. He then came at me like he was spelling things out really simple and basically told me to "get it done", to which I asked him to sign this cover note with the home owner detailing my concerns and leaving me not liable to any comebacks. Neither would sign, I walked.

Nobody ever signs.