My post on 5 day courses.

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

I hope I have not offended to many people with my reply to Andrew Case's thread about the five day course, but it makes my blood boil, I don't mind people wanting to learn a new skill, but I can't stand this trade being belittled by arrogant pr1cks that think anyone can tile.:mad2:

 

[DHTiling]

I thought you worded it well and applaud it.

Never used to bother me but these sort of short course posts lately are p!ssing me off as well Phil

 

[Spud]

well done Phil ,needed to be said

 

[Ian]

I see he's had a ***** in another thread! I did a 2 week course 5 years ago now, and looking back it was a good starting point but, probably 5% of my tiling knowledge came from it. Most of the technical stuff I know has come from this forum, anyone who is going to rely on a 5 day course to make a career from will quickly vanish from the trade, so nothing to worry about Phil.


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[The D]

Nothing wrong with your post m8 spot on IMHO

 

[The D]

I am confused this chap is in P&D and just done a 5 day tiling course but his name is in red witch indicates he is a pro tiler ??????????

 

[DHTiling]

Name is red for tilers arms , not pro tiler.

The pro tiler tag indicates that.

 

[The D]

not if you look at the bottom of the page professional tiler

 

[DHTiling]

which page Dean.?

 

[White Room]

At the bottom of Andrews page it reads Case Complete Tiling & Decorating.....

 

[The D]

where you look to see who is on line and it tels you green is Trusted Professional Advisor and red is Professional Tiler

 

[DHTiling]

Ah right... did ask ages ago for that to be removed...

 

[Dan]

Changed to "TF Arms Member".

Totally fine that post was Phil.

We have a bunch of plumbers and sparks who have exactly the same view about their trades who never manage to word it well at all and it does start a craze off of 'time-served' v 'newbies'. Though your post is perfectly put and rings true to all types. It totally makes sense.

Fair play.

 

[Peter]

Good post Phil.

Anyone who thinks they're ready for tiling bathrooms solo after a two week course and be able to produce the same finish of an experienced tiler is putting a bit too much faith in the course. :lol:

Can remember how I used to get very annoyed and disheartened when I was an apprentice and it was two years before I was allowed to stick a tile. Looking back on it, it was the right way as I had to master mixing buckets, then cutting, then grouting, then spreading etc whilst watching the tilers the whole time before I was ever allowed to lay a tile. It meant building your skills right from the bottom so that when the time came for you to fix tiles, you had been observing and asking questions for so long that you had a better idea of layouts, fixing techniques and how to get out of a problem.

Wouldn't fancy letting someone loose on my house that had only a few hours of tiling 6x6 diaonal on plasterboard under his belt.

 

[Andy Allen]

just how i learnt....spent a whole year just grouting, mixing a carying tools lol