original style tiles

[dodger]

Hi folks,
I wonder if anyone can help? Hoping to do 6m of hallway floor(original style).I've never done one before & customer wants to know how long it will take as i have given him a day rate.I'm thinking it's gonna take me forever as i believe all tiles are all individual pieces.Im in need of some guidance really on how long it might take & any general advice that may be useful.Thanks guys.

 

[oldgit]

Re: original style

if you have never done one and are new to tiling this probably aint the job to be starting off with.
ive been tiling for 32 years and have never done one :yikes::yikes:

 

[kngjason]

Re: original style

hi dodger just so where on the same wave length - original style? bit more detail plz

 

[jay]

Re: original style

hi if your talking about the old renditions (triangles squares rectangles octagon)all small under 100mm they are very hard to do and take a long time and patients not rec for someone srarting out:8:

 

[dodger]

Re: original style

Thanks for the quick response guys,I've been tiling for a few years now,done plenty of floors but no victorian style flooring(original style/olde english etc)

 

[jay]

Re: original style

hi depends on patern cant gues time frame just take your time most important setting out dont cut corners here and you need a flat floor very little tol there to good luck:8:

 

[oldgit]

Re: original style

i would at a guess say 1 day per mt,so labour 6x whatever your top day rate is plus mats,never go low on this type of work as it will be a headache from start to finish especially if its the first one and with regard to a high day rate this is specialist work dont let the punter forget that.
mind that said that maybe why ive never done one:20::20:

 

[kngjason]

Re: original style

Just think like laying indivdual mosaic. Awsome job if you can get them, very satisfying when complete. If the pattern allows it lay the big tiles first then the smaller ones use a 2mm gap between. There may be a size variation which will have to be allowed for with
extra spacing. This variation is an inevitable. Lay the border tiles. start at the corners and working towards the centre. In terms of price. Daily rate plus materials. Be great to get your portfoilio thou

 

[dodger]

Re: original style

Thanks guys,as far as i know it's the original style Chatsworth design & looks really complicated .I think 1m per day probably seems fair to me.

 

[theyomper]

Re: original style

Personally I think that 1 meter a day is slow, you will be surprised how your speed picks up once you start laying them. However it is all to do with the preparation.
Ensure that you have a really level floor and spend the time on the prep. Spend time planning the layout, if needed loose lay the pattern to get the feel of it. Think about any awkward angles and cuts, you can have a little artistic license in this situation.
I recently did one that was following an old pattern that was not in the brochure, it involved an area of about 6 square meters wit some 1500 individual tiles. It took me 2 1/2 days to prep, lay and finish.
If you have been tiling for a few years then you should be competent to lay these, all the principles remain the same. Once you have one under your belt you will breeze anjy others. I have had 2 in the last 18 months and I have enjoyed doing them.

 

[dodger]

Re: original style

Thanks,yomper,feel more confident on advising the customer on whats involved & how long it should take,cheers.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Re: original style

Dodger.
Its not so much how long will it take to lay the field tiles in the original style designs its the borders that take the time.
On a 6metre floor ie 1.5 x 4 metres it should be possible to lay the centre field tiles in 1 day with setting out. On days 2/3 you can lay the 11 linear metres approx of borders. On day 4 a half day to grout and clean.
What you must take note with the Chatsworth design is its repeat pattern of 800mm which is large for a hallway if the client is having a border!
Always find the middle of your floor area, set it out with dry tiles allowing for joint and make sure its the same pattern cut all around to the border.The plain tile cut to the skirting is your area of variation. Allow for time to return to te job to seal/satin polish the tiles for ease of maintainence.
We've got 3 victorian hallways in the next month - not all Original Style -and have been happily fixing them for over 25 years. John.

 

[tommyzooom]

Re: original style

Dodger.
Its not so much how long will it take to lay the field tiles in the original style designs its the borders that take the time.
On a 6metre floor ie 1.5 x 4 metres it should be possible to lay the centre field tiles in 1 day with setting out. On days 2/3 you can lay the 11 linear metres approx of borders. On day 4 a half day to grout and clean.
What you must take note with the Chatsworth design is its repeat pattern of 800mm which is large for a hallway if the client is having a border!
Always find the middle of your floor area, set it out with dry tiles allowing for joint and make sure its the same pattern cut all around to the border.The plain tile cut to the skirting is your area of variation. Allow for time to return to te job to seal/satin polish the tiles for ease of maintainence.
We've got 3 victorian hallways in the next month - not all Original Style -and have been happily fixing them for over 25 years. John.

Was going to reply but Timeless john just about summed it up perfectly.
This floor is about 6m and took me about 3 1/2 days.
Chatsworth design imo is too large for that size of an area. good luck though

 

[The D]

Re: original style

Was going to reply but Timeless john just about summed it up perfectly.
This floor is about 6m and took me about 3 1/2 days.
Chatsworth design imo is too large for that size of an area. good luck though View attachment 3174

nice floor m8

 

[The D]

This floor is about 4.5m2 and it took me and a lad three days and I have been a tiler for 25 years and have don this sort of work before. Hope this gives you some idea of the time you will need to complete the job.