Quoting for a kitchen spashback?

[Traxman]

Hello Guys,
I hope this is the place to discuss quotations.

How would you go about quoting for kitchen splashbacks in a kitchen and utility area as below. I have already made the walls good and had some replastering done which was priced on day rate.

There are no sections where you can get good runs in due to the sockets and the border so it looks like a lot of back buttering and lots and lots of cuts.

I have approx 7 sq metres of splashback to tile (The customer has ordered enough tiles to cover cuts/breakages etc so lets say 8 metres squared.)
The tiles are 100x100 glazed ceramics with a linear border.

I have 2 windows, 2 boxed in sections and 16 electrical switchs/sockets to deal with.

Another question.

When doing a spashback do you try and set out so a full tile finishes at the bottom window ledge or would you wrap around into the reveal?
I have done this both ways and believe a full tile gives less cuts and looks better although its not always practical as you could end up with small cuts elsewhere.

 

[GazTech]

Give yourself 2.5/3 days at day rate and tell the punter if you finish it sooner you will alter the price.Really full tiles should start sat on worktop,and if this gives you a nasty cut to window bottom,board it up to a bigger cut.If the window frame wont allow it ,then adjust your work surface cut all the way around. Hope this helps

 

[Concept PHT]

Good advice

 

[Traxman]

Thanks for the advice, I have done as you said and quoted a day rate price.
Concept, Would you of quoted the same way?

The boarding out tip is great thanks.

 

[kapitan]

kitchen splashbacks = day rates (£160) + materials !!

 

[Concept PHT]

Thanks for the advice, I have done as you said and quoted a day rate price.
Concept, Would you of quoted the same way?

The boarding out tip is great thanks.

Day rate plus materials mate

 

[Concept PHT]

I disagree, if you're new to tiling or just plain slow, you'll never get the job.

Nice rates though

 

[wivers]

I charge a standard £150 fee for a kitchen splash back, but thats if i know i'm gonna finish in a day or at worst a day and a morning to grout. When i first started i knew i needed experience and i knew that a kitchen splash back that should take a day was gonna take me 2/3, but that wasn't the customers fault and if i priced them 3 days money to do a splash back i was never gonna get the job, so at first you have to cut your loses a bit and except that you have to price as if your as quick as the other tilers even if its gona take ya twice as long, otherwise you won't get the job and won't get the experience.

 

[Concept PHT]

Good advice

 

[GazTech]

C'mon mercenaries of ceramic give the lad a chance,charge it cheap spend loads of time on it build your rep.....The money will come in time .walk and then run eh?

 

[tjsmiler]

Spot on Wivers and Gaz, too many newbies worry about earning a big living when they first start...don't be in a rush to get fast mate.....speed will come with time, it's the quality and the experience you should be concerned about.

When your faster charge a day rate mate, but while you are learning keep it simple and cheap and just except that you aint making huge bucks yet..If you only end up earning £60 a day for a while cos it takes you longer than you think, don't get demotivated just know that you will get faster.and £150 (or £160 Kapitan) aint far off.

Good luck mate

 

[Elliott]

I disagree, if you're new to tiling or just plain slow, you'll never get the job.

If they got you in for a quote, how do they know if your new or slow??

 

[tjsmiler]

Very true Elliot....this is the point i was trying to make in my post above....to many worry about what the customer is thinking, at the end of the day they don't know how new you are or how slow you are or.

If a job would take an experienced tiler 2 days and he was going to charge 2 lots of day rate (£300)........a newbie tiler comes along and tells the customer that the job will take 3 days and the price is £300 (or more if you think you can get it) the customer will just see that as a great price and will pick the person they like the most.......

i always tell the customer that i will not rush under any circumstance as i always want the job to be perfect .......But between us lot on here what this really means is "i am not very fast so thats why it takes me longer than the last guy who quoted you and i'm alowing plenty of time to get it done" you wont be earning a fortune like this but at least you will be earning a decent wage, pickintg up vital experience and gaining plenty of confidence.

Do plenty of these and the speed will pick up and eventually you will be doing the same £300 job in 2 days.

In other words i totally agree with Elliott LOL :wink_smile:

 

[Varley]

Spot on tj!

 

[kapitan]

correct lads!! tell the customer that you ur slow cos ur just out the training centre and your feet wont touch the ground!! look confident and charge the same rate as a pro, you will earn less to start with but trust me in the future if you are good you will reap the benifits!! i wont tell u how much i earned last year in case the taxman is watchin!! :wink_smile: