Renovating first house, need advice.

[scfirst]

Hi,

The problem i have is requiring the wall the bath is going to fit against. Itsfitting in a space 1700mm wide but the walls cure inward at each end, so whenthe bath is placed against the wall there is a gap either end of 25mm. As thetile need to line up with the bath i will need to pack the ends out with extratile adhesive, so how thick can i apply it.

Also, do i fit the bath then tile or do i tile then fit the bath.

Thanks

 

[doug boardley]

can you not straighten the walls up with dot and dabbed plasterboard?

 

[Ian]

As above. Fix the walls, don't pack the tiles out.

 

[scfirst]

The whole bathroom was replastered last october but it's only now that i have realised the problem. It's only recently that i have re started on the house and its been too long to go back, poor workmanship. Also if i boarded the wall it would cause problem with the space i have in the bathroom.

 

[kilty55]

hi sc first what was poor workmanship,the plastering?

you can either build the wall out to accomodate the bath or you can have 1 small shelf at one end imo i would opt to sort the walls as advised if possible

 

[Ian]

You will need to build the wall out, your adhesive can't be applied that thick. Which adhesive are you planning on using?

 

[doug boardley]

if you're not prepared to straighten the wall the only other option is to chop the bath into the wall. You'll still have a curved wall to tile though...

 

[scfirst]

Even it i chop the bath into the wall i will still need tocompensate with extra adhesive so the gap is equal from one end to the other,edge of bath to tiles.

 

[kilty55]

so the walls need re done?

 

[Ian]

I don't fully understand. If you plan on packing the wall out, why can't you do it with plasterboard rather than tile adhesive? Surely the outcome will be the same?

 

[Ian]

Maybe a picture will help if you can post one.

 

[kilty55]

as above sc fitst 25mm at either end is way too much to pack out a tile plus you have bent walls still im not sure whay you cant plasterboard the wall to accomodate this is it on awkward position?

 

[White Room]

I'd be hacking the plaster off and then dot and dab plasterboard......

 

[scfirst]

The best way to think of it is a concave shape, the wall is1700mm wide located in a corner. The bath fits exactly into the space so thereis a wall touching the top, bottom and the side with the wonky wall.

 

[Ian]

Ah so the problem is in the middle of the long side of the bath. Is that right?

 

[scfirst]

Yes, the gap is 1700mm and the bath is 1700mm, so with it slide in it does not sit square on the one 1700mm wall.

 

[Ian]

The dip needs fixing before tiling. No one on here will ever advise that you build tile adhesive out that thick. Sorry.

 

[kilty55]

cant you get a plasterer to straighten the wall and re skim it?

 

[bugs183]

And don't tile then fit the bath, it will always leak.
I've been to quite a few jobs lately where the plumber wants to fit the bath against the tiles and says it'll be ok with silicon. No!!!
When the plumber fits the bath try and get him to to fix battons on the wall so the bottom of the bath roll fits snugly on to them, the bath will be nicely supported, and won't move when in use. Make sure they peel back the protective film where the bath meets the 3 walls,fix it to the wall with fixings, and uses silicon as well.

 

[charlie1]

Is there a bulge in the centre of the wall where the wall makes contact with the bath? And you don't want to pack out the wall anymore? Ok. Instead of dot dabbing the whole wall, simply dot dab the area you want to build out at each end, then feather some bonding plaster between these 2 sections using a trowel and straight edge. So to recap: plaster board the thicker bits at each end, feather the plaster between these 2 sections! Hope you follow and Good Luck

 

[White Room]

If you use bonding it must have a finish on it....

 

[charlie1]

Instead of bonding. Use rapidset adhesive. You will be able to tile the next day if you wish

 

[kilty55]

i thought initially it was the 2 end walls you were talking about

i would hack plaster off and dot and dab to straighten

 

[White Room]

As above and as I posted, there no short cut to this problem.....

 

[AliGage]

I'm no plasterer but i reakon i could skim a 6' x 8' wall and not leave a dip anywhere near an inch! He called himself a plasterer?? I'd be having words.

I agree about dabbing new board over the top and use a level. You'd only loose 1 1/2". You could do this and then fit the bath, or fit the bath using a suporting baton well mounted and screwed and use the wall fixing brackets supplied with your bath. Then dab your board on the wall. This depends on the width of the bath rim. Ensure to leave a gap between the bath and the board and not rest the board on the bath.