Taking up 220m2 of tiles

[kingdean1]

Hello everybody I was just wondering if anybody would roughly know how long and what would be the best way to take up 220 m2 of tiles in a car showroom? Any help would be much appreciated. Many thanks

 

[White Room]

Depending how well there stuck down and go for the worst scenario, half an hour per m2 including loading into a skip....

 

[Time's Ran Out]

We were asked to repair a few tiles in a 2 year old Audi garage a short while ago and when I told them they were all loose, they still just wanted a few repaired!!!!!
We didn't get the job but it would have only taken a couple of days for your quantity.
At half an hour per meter ( which sounds ok for well fixed tiles) that's 55 days work for 1 man! So you'll have to put plenty of bodies on the job or work faster. For turnaround and lost sales you'll be lucky to get 2 weeks for the whole job so taking up and laying will have to go side by side. A squad of 6 would be a minimum IMHO.

 

[Del W]

As Whitebeam, untill you start,you wont know.If they are fixed good,rent a couple of kangos with wide chisel bits & get stuck in.

 

[nybor62]

i have done this many times for house of fraser, hire a breaker with a steel plate fixing not a chisel to thick , we were doing around 50m2 a night 4 men 2 breakers and 2 loading rubbish into bins , the steel plate will remove adhesive as well, cant remember were we hired them from , but i remember the makita one was the best imo

 

[bugs183]

Could be a doddle or a total nightmare!!! I err on it being a mare, then i'm usually surprised!!!
Make sure the customer is aware that it will take what it does to get the tiles up, there i no way of knowing until you start.
There is every chance that it's going to need levelling, tiling onto onto a rough floor of that area is a pain, if it's rough relevel it. Otherwise you'll use tons more adhesive and it'll take more time fighting the bumps and holes.

 

[nybor62]

agree with above about levelling , we did all our own slc , otherwise your fighting a loosing battle getting them flat , if the floors are bad ,

 

[kingdean1]

Many thanks everybody for all your responses they are all much appreciated as I have never had to do such a large area as this. I know we are not allowed to discuss prices here but if somebody does not mind to pm me about what roughly I should be charging that would be a great help. Many thanks

 

[White Room]

As in my post work it out at 0.50 half an hour and times by your hourly rate, that will give you an idea.

 

[bugs183]

If you can have a site visit take a good look around where you will be working.
Make sure you talk to yourr boss employer etc, and that you know who will be doing what regarding this stage of the job.
Will there be a skip/skips, and how close will it be to the work area, are you responcible for removing all the tiles and dust etc???
Are people going to be working where you'll be?
Is the area contained or open to other rooms.
This is going to be a dusty, noisy job. Will you have to erect dust screens and hire industrial vacuums?
People love new floors, but aint keen on dust!!!!
Not being a moaner or putting a negative spin, but i'm a realist and it's nice to think you can go on to a job and be confident it's going to go as you expected.

 

[kingdean1]

I looked the other day and it is in a fiat showroom which will still be open by the sounds of things so I guess I will have to put up dust screens and vacuums etc. I will email the showroom to confirm things. Thanks for the replys

 

[White Room]

Definitely some sort of screening, don't want to be paying for any resprays after a tile fragment goes where it should'nt.....

 

[kingdean1]

Which it most probably would!

 

[Ajax123]

You can get a machine to do ths with which would cut the time considerably for such a large area.

 

[aflemi]

We were asked to repair a few tiles in a 2 year old Audi garage a short while ago and when I told them they were all loose, they still just wanted a few repaired!!!!!
We didn't get the job but it would have only taken a couple of days for your quantity.
At half an hour per meter ( which sounds ok for well fixed tiles) that's 55 days work for 1 man! So you'll have to put plenty of bodies on the job or work faster. For turnaround and lost sales you'll be lucky to get 2 weeks for the whole job so taking up and laying will have to go side by side. A squad of 6 would be a minimum IMHO.

Sorry mate but 220m at 1/2hr per m is only 110 hours. only 55 days if you do a 2 hr day............, so more like 9-12 man days. Just in case someone's using that number without checking it, would be embarassing

 

[DJS]

Anyone ever used one of these??

HTC 420 VS - a small and durable grinding machine

Hire shops would charge around £400+VAT for the machine/transformer and dust extraction. The big cost seems to be with wear and tear on the diamond heads £30-£60 per mm. Would be interested to know if anyone knows what wear & tear you would get from 100m2?

Most cases I would remove tiles and use SLC. But when a short time frame is key to the project, I have started thinking this is a better solution. Could probably get most tiles up and start setting out on day 1, instead of day 1 remove tiles, day 2 level area and day 3 setout.

Would be interested to hear if anyone has experience with it. Trying to get my foot in the door with a hotel group, that has 200m2 of cermaic laid in the hotel lobby. I found out from the night watchmen, that they want it doing and are already planning to close this christmas!

 

[Dan]

Whatever you do price it per m2 or day rate, not a fixed price.

 

[turnip]

first, the builder would be erecting partioning so don't worry about that, secondly two labourers will take one day to smash up the lot of the existing (don't expect that the old tiles will be welded to the screed). easy, kango the lot up and chuck in skip (builder providing?). latex and ready for new electrics, etc then tiling. this was the system we used on a 220msq car showroom floor recently, good luck!