Tiling a Commercial Kitchen Floor Advice

[darrenmkn]

Hi, I see you are an experienced tiler on this forum. I would appreciate any help you can give.
I have an industrial kitchen floor to tile, approx 7m x 10m. There are drains that the tiles need to fall into.
I have experience tiling domestic bathrooms and kitchens, but not industrial work.
Would i need to put a fall in the floor for water run off along the whole floor, or keep the floor level and then make a small fall about 1 meter from the drain?
Would i need specialised cutting equipment for the tiles, I have a rubi wet cutter that works frine on domestic tiles and a ts60 rubi dry cutter?
Would i need put down a membrane under the tiles to give the floor strength? Its a concrete floor.
Do i need expansion joints in the floor?
Many thanks if you can help.
Darren

 

[DHTiling]

Hi Darren ... where the drains are in-situ , is there any falls present to them .?

 

[darrenmkn]

Thanks for reply dave. I avent seen the job yet, so i dont know exactly where the drains are, and if there is a fall in the floor to them. Does the fall in the floor need to run the length of the room? Or could most of the floor be level and the floor just have a fall about 1 meter from the drain?

 

[DHTiling]

IMO just falls to the drain within a mtr or so is fine and the floor can be mopped etc towards these points.. They are basically swill points .

What i will say is though , that the spec would be epoxy grout for this working area.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

If you run it the whole floor then nothing will be level.
I know it may sound kurt, but if you have to ask , perhaps you are out of your depth on this one and it could cost you in the long run.

 

[bugs183]

Find out what the kitchen is used for, and wether the room needs full falls.It sounds like you've been made aware about the falls, and that the floor needs to work to them. Ideally the floor should have these falls already in place and you should just turn up and tile, unless you are responcible for the screeding. This floor is way too big for you to try and create full falls, only small ones as the lads say.

 

[darrenmkn]

Thanks for replies.. Just a couple of more questions..
1) As the floor spans a large area, should i use expansion joints?
2) Should i use a membrane underneath the floor?
Thanks
Darren

 

[Alan.P]

The last commercial kitchen I did had no falls but did have drain points, when you go see the job ask the question cover all bases.
Edit and as said above it should be done in epoxy grout.

 

[Martyn Leeds]

are we a tiler?

 

[widler]

If a floor has drains, it most probably has a fall in it anyhow, well it should have

 

[darrenmkn]

Thanks for replies.. Just a couple of more questions..
1) As the floor spans a large area, should i use expansion joints? If so, should they be set at certain distances?
2) Should i use a membrane underneath the floor? ie schluter ditra membrane
3) Do i need to use certain primers on the concrete, or would regular PVA do?
4) Would i need to use stronger adhesives, specifically for a commercial kitchin?
Thanks
Darren

 

[DHTiling]

No membrane IMO.

Bays no bigger than 45 sqr mtrs.

 

[Alan.P]

Going by the questions, with all due respect, don't quote for the job, out of your depth.

 

[Stef]

PVA???

WTF!!!

Think you need to have a serious read through this forum!!

 

[darrenmkn]

Thanks for your helpful advice Dave. The total area is 70m2, you mentioned no bays bigger than 45m2. so should i split it into two areas witha n expansion joint?