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TTA urges extra care on tiling with mesh-backed products

In view of the increasing use of ceramic and stone mesh-backed tiles and slabs in the UK, The Tile Association urges extra care with the specification and installation of such products.

These products tend to have a mesh adhered to the back of the ceramic or natural stone with resin or glue. This means that when the tile or slab is installed, the adhesive used to fix the tile has to adhere to the backing mesh of the tile or slab.

Dependent upon service conditions, the type of backing may have a significant impact upon performance. For instance, adhesion bond strengths may be reduced in external or wet duty applications, or in areas where thermal movement is a consideration. It is also important to note that the coefficient of thermal expansion of the mesh back and its resin/glue may be higher than the tile or natural stone tile/ slab to which it is attached.

Currently there are no standards for mesh backed tiles and slabs, and frequently these products are supplied with no information on the composition of the mesh resin/glue, the appropriate type of adhesive that should be used when they are installed and even their suitability in certain locations.

Apart from reference to BS 5385, The British Standard Code of Practice for fixing wall and floor tiles and BS8000-11, the Code of Practice for Workmanship on Site regarding mesh-backed products, the TTA advises that as a guideline, if the mesh and glue cover more than 25% of the back of the product, they could interfere with adhesion between the product and the mortar or adhesive bed unless the glue and the mortar or adhesive are compatible.
 

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Dave, So what would your take be on removing as much of the mesh as possible, and using a resin adhesive?
Just curious.


Bal mentioned that to me , but the Mesh is there to strengthen a thin tile , so if you removed it and used said tile on say a heated screed , are you causing an issue with tile fissures fracturing/opening ..

Also would a customer pay you to stand and remove said backing ? .. I very much doubt it lol lol..

You would also need to expose 75% of the tiles surface/back without reducing the tiles thickness to a standard that would alter its ability to serve purpose.
 

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Dave, So what would your take be on removing as much of the mesh as possible, and using a resin adhesive?
Just curious.


Also to add , I was tiling to Ditra and you cannot use Resin adhesive on it.
 

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What is recommended then? Two part?

No, if more than 25% of the tile is covered , then they are saying they are unsuitable... The choice is suitability is down to the fixer.
 

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I have had it before with stone mosaics, where the mesh was far to big and bulky. I was honest and open to the customer showing the problem. they paid me znd extra day to remove them and fix individually. which is all and good but all customers won't be so understanding.
 

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