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oldgit
hi, i been out for around a year now with a surgically broken leg and possibly wont get back tiling as i have to have knee and ankle surgery in maybe a year or so, so i wont be doing this job but want to advise and assist an old customer.
the room is around 2.2 mts x 1.6 mts split down the middle with a wall creating a toilet and shower area, with a doorway (no door) into the shower part.
this is downstairs on screed and plaster walls.
the hallway outside is tiled with 450mm travertine and these will continue into these 2 rooms with the trap being the furthest point away, the trap is around 600mm wide and will be set around 200mm from the back wall.
it is all a bit of a pain to get the falls in right but i can help him over that with a bit of hassle.
my main concern is the 75x40mm ish mosaic set in a brick style he wants on the walls.
they have a mesh back that is the stiff plastic type and they are machine cut square edged from wickes so there not all the same thickness although there not terrible, they are untreated and unfilled.
there is only a very small window in the toilet area and an electric vent in the shower area so ventilation may or may not be adequate.
i personally wouldnt use them in a wet room nor would i use trav on the floor but thats just me.
how can the mosaic be fully sealed especially the edges, you can fold them along the long edge to seal but not the short edge going across the bond, they are fairly stiff on the mesh and could possibly weaken and and fall apart if not really careful.
i have a list of things id like recommended him for the job.
he doesnt want an expensive tanking system.
adhesives and grout for both the floors and walls.
a cheap paint on tanking method for both walls and floor.
what sealers should be used, ive always used HG by preference but i know things have changed.
also a good latex to build up the floor in the shower area as this is an old extension and is about 6mm low and i need a bit of height to get the falls or should i use an adhesive capable of going to 30mm or so (this can be a pain with heavy trav what with sinking and sliding and that it has to have a fall.
is this a really bad choice of tile for a wet room, i think it is.
i just believe that especially the mosaic wont get fully sealed and once sodden will remain this way, there could be very slight lips where water could soak in or is there a method of fully sealing them.
if im honest and was doing this job i would probably walk away as i see it as potentially a job that will fail at some point, even if all the tanking was top end i believe the tiles could be a very weak link.
as i say i wont be physically fully doing the job but will be there to show how, i will no doubt be doing more than im expecting to do but as i cant really get down and up properly it will be a real pain especially it such a tight area.
any advice very much appreciated.
OG.
the room is around 2.2 mts x 1.6 mts split down the middle with a wall creating a toilet and shower area, with a doorway (no door) into the shower part.
this is downstairs on screed and plaster walls.
the hallway outside is tiled with 450mm travertine and these will continue into these 2 rooms with the trap being the furthest point away, the trap is around 600mm wide and will be set around 200mm from the back wall.
it is all a bit of a pain to get the falls in right but i can help him over that with a bit of hassle.
my main concern is the 75x40mm ish mosaic set in a brick style he wants on the walls.
they have a mesh back that is the stiff plastic type and they are machine cut square edged from wickes so there not all the same thickness although there not terrible, they are untreated and unfilled.
there is only a very small window in the toilet area and an electric vent in the shower area so ventilation may or may not be adequate.
i personally wouldnt use them in a wet room nor would i use trav on the floor but thats just me.
how can the mosaic be fully sealed especially the edges, you can fold them along the long edge to seal but not the short edge going across the bond, they are fairly stiff on the mesh and could possibly weaken and and fall apart if not really careful.
i have a list of things id like recommended him for the job.
he doesnt want an expensive tanking system.
adhesives and grout for both the floors and walls.
a cheap paint on tanking method for both walls and floor.
what sealers should be used, ive always used HG by preference but i know things have changed.
also a good latex to build up the floor in the shower area as this is an old extension and is about 6mm low and i need a bit of height to get the falls or should i use an adhesive capable of going to 30mm or so (this can be a pain with heavy trav what with sinking and sliding and that it has to have a fall.
is this a really bad choice of tile for a wet room, i think it is.
i just believe that especially the mosaic wont get fully sealed and once sodden will remain this way, there could be very slight lips where water could soak in or is there a method of fully sealing them.
if im honest and was doing this job i would probably walk away as i see it as potentially a job that will fail at some point, even if all the tanking was top end i believe the tiles could be a very weak link.
as i say i wont be physically fully doing the job but will be there to show how, i will no doubt be doing more than im expecting to do but as i cant really get down and up properly it will be a real pain especially it such a tight area.
any advice very much appreciated.
OG.
