Wet room shower former??

[Bowie2807]

Hi all,I have been asked to install my first tiled wet room shower tray former??fitting the tray is straight forward but I am a little miffed with how to tile the tray??do they come with a template marked on the tray of cuts to make???because if they don't how will I know what angles and sizes to cut tiles to?any comments or helpfully tips would be great.thanks

 

[Dave]

Have you tiled before ?

 

[Bowie2807]

Yeh I tile all the time but and install formers for vinyl but never tiled a shower former??

 

[Dave]

Tile size ?

 

[Bowie2807]

Unsure but knowing the lady,would be at least 450x450 possibly bigger??

 

[Qwerty]

What former is it and does it have any lines marked on the face to follow for the envelope cuts?

 

[Bowie2807]

Non of the trays I have looked at for her have any templates marked on the trays??its for a solid floor,I'm trying to get a price for a 1200x900 center drain.if tile cuts are marked on the tray it would be pretty straight forward!

 

[Dave]

Your cuts work from drain cover corner to the peak of the tray at each corner ,

 

[Bowie2807]

So basically take a line from each corner of square drain to each corner of tray and cut whatever size tiles to each line equally into walls??i think I get where your coming from,going to take some working out when I know what tiles she wants but thanks for the input.

 

[Rookery]

I mark the falls with a pencil line then, starting at the drain, mark and cut the tiles for the tray dry and only fix when they're all done.

 

[Bowie2807]

Thanks mate,will cut them in dry and fix when it looks perfect

 

[Chalker]

Thanks mate,will cut them in dry and fix when it looks perfect

Here you go

these trays do have markings, but it's the same process with any wet room former.
i cut all the tiles first, then mark the envelope cuts. ( these need to be cut with a wet saw for accuracy and to create the 3mm gap for grouting).

 

[White Room]

A bit like painting by numbers:smilewinkgrin:

 

[trustiling]

Save yourself the hassle and buy a linear wet deck.

 

[Stef]

Save yourself the hassle and buy a linear wet deck.

What deck is that?
I was looking at the Rialto? For my own bathroom..

 

[trustiling]

Novellini do them in most sizes and differ t placement of the drain, you can also tile the inside of the drain if you wish.
Saves having to wet cut the envelope and works well with any size of tile.

 

[Stef]

So is this tray only got 2 runs on it then?

 

[trustiling]

Yeah basically and centre your grout line along the centre if the length of the drain.
Used to always envelope but push these to client everytime now, much less hassle and quicker.
I remember using one a few years back where the drain was right against the wall, I want to keen on that idea though as there wasn't a good seal where the wall tile came down on top

 

[Stef]

That's a far better idea, I wasn't sure how the linear drain worked, far easier to tile as well..

 

[trustiling]

Do we talk prices on here?? ( browsed on the forum for years but just started posting since I noticed it works on tapatalk lol )

I think I pay around £350 for the tray, gulley, drain.
Which is ridiculous when you consider what they are made up of, but they aren't as common place yet so I expect they will come down in time

 

[Bowie2807]

Brilliant,thanks for the images great help

 

[Stef]

Cheers for that, just noticed you are up the "Toon" I'm down in sunny Ayrshire...

 

[trustiling]

Ha! Yup Glasgow South but work all over.
3 man team, 2 tilers and a boy, down in Kidlington for a couple of weeks at the moment doing some nice marble work for Oxford granites but the shine of working away has worn off dying to get up the road!

 

[Stef]

Ha! Yup Glasgow South but work all over.
3 man team, 2 tilers and a boy, down in Kidlington for a couple of weeks at the moment doing some nice marble work for Oxford granites but the shine of working away has worn off dying to get up the road!

Haha, I know the feeling.
I've a new labourer starting tomorrow & hopefully starting another tiler this week.
Too busy to do everything on my own.

 

[trustiling]

That's good news to hear [emoji106]
Hope they come good for you
We just started our new apprentice a week or two ago and in at the deep end working away, but it seems we've found a good one this time as any young boys in past recent times have been woeful!
Anyway enough thread hijacking for now lol