what is master craftsman?

[jay]

sorry not local just wondering what is the service called master craftsman just seen it in another post can some one help

 

[doug boardley]

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I'll have to look into it Jay, but i think it's an association that you pay into to get the accreditation. if I'm right they ask for a reference from a customer and then you pay them for the title. I could be wrong, but not by far I think.

 

[mikethetile]

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A master craftsman is a tradesman who has taught others the the trade, so you have the apprentice and his master

there is the guild of master craftsmen which cinfuses things

you can join this guild by paying the subs and giving three references, most tradesmen dont bother as its worthless but some people fall for it so if someone wants to add cred to their business they can join up and have the badge on their van/ letterheads

 

[jay]

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Right so is it like a compony you can go and find a craftsman so to speaker just with builders

 

[user123]

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No, Jay, it means with some references you can buy a 'stamp of approval/qulaity' which looks reassuring to customers when they see an advertising with it on, rightly or wrongly depends on the craftsmanwoman

 

[jay]

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okay your telling me i could go to this company (is it a buisiness) show them 3 referances and PAY a fee and be called a master craftsman/woman///////////
oh thats nice what sort of garantee comes with that

 

[tommyzooom]

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The Guild of Master Craftsmen - Consumer site
National Guild Of Master Craftsmen - Home

 

[jay]

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and people use this service oh dear whats the world comming to

minamun of 2 years experiance ;

one thing i supose they go in and moderate if a dispute happens

just doesnt seem right having to buy a title ; ill stick to the old way personal reputation

thanks to all

 

[user123]

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It's a superficially reassuring site, isn't it, until you read the criteria and think about it. Talking about buying titles, some people by a blue blood title here, did you know? ) Like an elevated ancestry connection to royalty.... ))

 

[jay]

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That sucks more like fraud to me

 

[user123]

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With the ancestry thing, there is no harm, really, I can think of, it's just a weird ego thing, with the Guild of Master Craftsmen it will depend on the trade/craftsman, as said, so nothing new there. I think some good people genuinely fed up with being tarnished with the same brush as cowboys buythis to make a point, the less honest buy it to look better than they really are... the truth comes out eventually...

 

[Perry]

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That sucks more like fraud to me

when i had a tile and bathroom shop a few years ago we wouldn't employ anyone that belonged to them as the ones i had meet over the years were very poor tradesmen

 

[Stewart]

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From past experience, I always found the members of the guild I came across, were far from masterly in their chosen trade. This type of tradesmen (if they can be called "tradesmen") use every trick in the the book to make them seem credible and join any association that will have them. Having trained up 4 apprentices of my own..... I would never dream of calling myself that, even if I was entitled to.:ban::ban:

 

[mikethetile]

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whats wrong with mastertiler

its a badge you should werar with pride

 

[doug boardley]

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By the sound of it, a Blue Peter badge would give you more cred!

 

[Stewart]

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By the sound of it, a Blue Peter badge would give you more cred!

It would Doug...... as you have to actually do something to achieve a Blue Peter badge , rather than just hand money over!

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

In my experience you either are, or your not. Let your work speak for you. Not some piece of paper, in the past a true master craftsman led a team of journeymen, including tradesmen, improver's, and apprentices. He would have his name entered in the doomsday book, I would imagine by royal decree. There are trade associations trying to get this time honoured accreditation restored for certain trades, tiling being one of them

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

who is that then phil???

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

who is that then phil???

TTA Dave, in conjunction with Skillbuild for tilers. I think also ornamental plastering, stonemasons, through their own trade associations. Still not off the ground yet for tilers, but these things take time.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Old thread I know, but it took me five years from being nominated to being awarded the title in London on March 10th 2014, Guild of Master Craftsmen is a sham, you pays your money you gets your membership.

I am proud to be one of four tilers in Britain to hold this accreditation. A real honour, not paid for, but earned over a lifetime of hard work and moving along with the changes that have occured in our industry.

So forgive me if I don't have much time for these so called trade organisations or five day / five week courses , they offer worthless bits of paper, they will never turn out real tilers.

Real tilers are not created in a classroom, but on site over many years. End of rant.

 

[Gazzer]

Real tilers are not created in a classroom, but on site over many years. End of rant.

And not by even reading this forum for a year doing a handfull of jobs for yourself and still getting basics wrong !

 

[Chalker]

A craftsman is not something you should ever call yourself!

you only are, if others call you one.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Phil Hobson IS a Mater Craftsmen!

So if you are wondering just look at his work.
Too many threads talk about 20 year Tilers not doing the business, but to survive in this trade for 40+ years you have to be exceptional!

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

A craftsman is not something you should ever call yourself!

you only are, if others call you one.

I have never thought of myself as a master craftsman, but I was given that title by others.
I had no say in the matter, just turned up on the day, had a fantastic meal, got a gong and certificate, met some very nice people.

I remain Phil Hobson rag *** tiler from Oldham. My sons are proud, so that will do me, I have been called far worse in my time.

 

[John Benton]

I have never thought of myself as a master craftsman, but I was given that title by others.
I had no say in the matter, just turned up on the day, had a fantastic meal, got a gong and certificate, met some very nice people.

I remain Phil Hobson rag *** tiler from Oldham. My sons are proud, so that will do me, I have been called far worse in my time.

You only went for the nosebag Phil, did you go large? :sofahide:

You're right though Phil, there's a massive chasm between someone who is good at their job to being a master craftsman!!!