when should i Silicon floor edges?

[jjj]

hello everyone,as you may know i am pretty new to the tiling game but i just completed a 12m floor with porcelain.happy with job as it was very awkward(utility and small toilet) but i was pleased with finish.had job all tiled and grouted in 2 days (late finish day 2) but had to go back for an hour or 2 on day 3 to Silicon rond toilt and edges etc.has anyone got any tips on when to Silicon to save going back.thanks j.

 

[DHTiling]

just Silicon as you lay then it will set while the adhesive sets......:8:

 

[Perry]

Good tip Dave i quite often Silicon before i grout

 

[davy_G]

If the plumber has to come back to fit shower controls, taps, mixers or any sanitary ware then see if he will do it.
I try and work with the same plumbers and we tend to look after each other like this. I might remove a toilet or rad to save him coming to a job for a few hours and then he does my siliconing.

 

[DHTiling]

Woul you trust a plumber to Silicon up on your pride and joy posh bathroom...and then do a bad siliconing job which will make your job look crap....I DON'T THINK SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.........

 

[Perry]

wouldn't trust a plumber with the pipes :lol:

 

[CLAYS TILES]

pmsl...........or the plumber would take the credit!!!

 

[Mr Tiler]

Hi jjj I would Silicon the hole job once i have grouted. job finished. :8:

 

[GazTech]

I always Silicon before I grout,and like to leave the grouting until the day after tiles have gone on......Gaz

 

[Raja]

hello and welcome hope you are well. i usually Silicon after finishing the grouting

 

[alastair68]

it is amazing how you just go through a natural progression Tile - Grout - Silicon without thinking too much.Dave's suggestion has just hit me like a christmas pudding!!i will be following Dave's lead from now on, Cheers!!

 

[jjj]

ok thanks everyone ,may try Silicon before grout next time see which i prefer...

 

[grumpygrouter]

I've seen this Silicon question before. If you Silicon when grout is new and not hard the Silicon won't stick to it. I have had this very problem on a kitchen I was in a hurry to finish. Ended up looking she-ite and the Silicon was coming away! I had to remove it and do it properly. It looked much better the second time.

If you Silicon before grouting, how long do you leave the Silicon to set before attempting to grout up to it? if you do it too early you will disturb the Silicon and make a mess!

Grumpy

 

[Gazzer]

I would prefer to grout 1st and then Silicon over last . It makes sense to me because if you Silicon 1st i feel that when it comes to grouting , small pin holes in the grout can appear next to Silicon.
Also Silicon should really be one of the last jobs before the house is handed over. How many times have i seen the Silicon done and then another trade follow me in and drill holes for shower screens etc...then the Silicon is a mess. I know it shouldnt happen but it does.
Regards.

 

[GazTech]

I would prefer to grout 1st and then Silicon over last . It makes sense to me because if you Silicon 1st i feel that when it comes to grouting , small pin holes in the grout can appear next to Silicon.
Also Silicon should really be one of the last jobs before the house is handed over. How many times have i seen the Silicon done and then another trade follow me in and drill holes for shower screens etc...then the Silicon is a mess. I know it shouldnt happen but it does.
Regards.

welcome to the forums Sir Ramic ( fantastic name ) you do have some good points...but overall I feel that when Silicon is applied after grouting, the Silicon is sitting on top of grout and not actually in a joint,A-as an expansion and B- to repell water.....also with it not being pushed into a joint, it tends to spread across tiles and meeting surfaces creating a feather finish, which peels off when customer wipes or scrubs to clean........Gaz