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Ok, ok, I'll let you into my secret. It was 2 google searches. The first one was something along the lines of "how do I find out who the administrators are" and that took me to an informative forum that told people to try the London Gazette. So I googled London Gazette and found their search page. I remembered that Diamond was just a trading style of Essex Tiling so searched for Essex Tiling and up it popped. Very easy thanks to the internet. I wonder how people would have found those details before the marvels of modern technology.
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You may have misread the document.
The meeting has already taken place:
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Date: 18 November 2010 Issue Number - 59608 Page number: 22255
Publication Date: Thursday, 18 November 2010
Notice Code: 2442
Meetings of Creditors
ESSEX TILING LIMITED
(Company Number 06364187)
Notice is hereby given, as required by Section 98(1) of the Insolvency Act 1986 (as amended), that a First Meeting of Creditors is to take place.
The Meeting will be held at 311 High Road, Loughton, Essex IG10 1AH on 29 November 2010 at 11.45 am.
A Statement of Affairs of the company, and a list of the Creditors of the Company and the estimated amount of their claims, will be presented at the Meeting, and, if thought fit, a Liquidator may be nominated and a Liquidation Committee appointed.
Resolutions may be taken at the Meeting specifying the terms on which the Liquidator is to be remunerated. The Meeting may also receive information about the costs of preparing the Statement of Affairs and convening the Meeting.
Richard Jeffrey Rones of ThorntonRones Limited is qualified to act as insolvency practitioner in relation to the above and will furnish creditors, free of charge, with such information concerning the company’s affairs as is reasonably required.
A list of the names and addresses of the Company’s Creditors will be available for inspection, free of charge, at ThorntonRones Limited, 311 High Road, Loughton, Essex IG10 1AH on the two business days prior to the Meeting between 10.00 am and 4.00 pm.
The Company’s registered office is Spectrum House 2B, Suttons Lane, Hornchurch, Essex RM12 6RJ and the Company’s principal trading address is Unit D8, Rudford Industrial Estate, Ford Road, Arundel BN18 0BD.
Further information about this case is available from the offices of ThorntonRones on 020 8418 9333.
Daniel Frederick George Evans Director
Dated 1 November 2010.
(1248512)
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I would still write to them. Also you could print off above as proof to your credit card company that your claim is true. That may be enough information to satisfy them.
The meeting has already taken place:
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Date: 18 November 2010 Issue Number - 59608 Page number: 22255
Publication Date: Thursday, 18 November 2010
Notice Code: 2442
Meetings of Creditors
ESSEX TILING LIMITED
(Company Number 06364187)
Notice is hereby given, as required by Section 98(1) of the Insolvency Act 1986 (as amended), that a First Meeting of Creditors is to take place.
The Meeting will be held at 311 High Road, Loughton, Essex IG10 1AH on 29 November 2010 at 11.45 am.
A Statement of Affairs of the company, and a list of the Creditors of the Company and the estimated amount of their claims, will be presented at the Meeting, and, if thought fit, a Liquidator may be nominated and a Liquidation Committee appointed.
Resolutions may be taken at the Meeting specifying the terms on which the Liquidator is to be remunerated. The Meeting may also receive information about the costs of preparing the Statement of Affairs and convening the Meeting.
Richard Jeffrey Rones of ThorntonRones Limited is qualified to act as insolvency practitioner in relation to the above and will furnish creditors, free of charge, with such information concerning the company’s affairs as is reasonably required.
A list of the names and addresses of the Company’s Creditors will be available for inspection, free of charge, at ThorntonRones Limited, 311 High Road, Loughton, Essex IG10 1AH on the two business days prior to the Meeting between 10.00 am and 4.00 pm.
The Company’s registered office is Spectrum House 2B, Suttons Lane, Hornchurch, Essex RM12 6RJ and the Company’s principal trading address is Unit D8, Rudford Industrial Estate, Ford Road, Arundel BN18 0BD.
Further information about this case is available from the offices of ThorntonRones on 020 8418 9333.
Daniel Frederick George Evans Director
Dated 1 November 2010.
(1248512)
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I would still write to them. Also you could print off above as proof to your credit card company that your claim is true. That may be enough information to satisfy them.
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Deleted member 1779
Not sure but I think from reading it they do say "First Meeting"
1) Write to let them know you have an interest
2) Print it off and send it to your credit card company as proof. If they give you are refund they might take it up themselves with the liquidators.
As a factory we already got burned once when we supplied the original owner of Diamond Training with 20 x Kits of drills and never got paid. I was thinking of submitting the old invoice to the Liquidator but I think I will just walk away from the debt. Cut my losses.
Jim is better protected by consumer credit act, his credit card. We are not protected as a business because the CCA doesnt apply to us so we face a bigger battle. I would still be tempted (if I were Jimmy) to pursue both points above.
Also: Big Shout Out to Liz - Who spotted the publication. Well done GR. I also trawled the net but went in totally the wrong direction even forgetting they were Essex and I was looking under Diamond. You did good !
So I assume that its one of many (otherwise they would have put "the" meeting ?? Not being an expert. My advise would be to do both things
1) Write to let them know you have an interest
2) Print it off and send it to your credit card company as proof. If they give you are refund they might take it up themselves with the liquidators.
As a factory we already got burned once when we supplied the original owner of Diamond Training with 20 x Kits of drills and never got paid. I was thinking of submitting the old invoice to the Liquidator but I think I will just walk away from the debt. Cut my losses.
Jim is better protected by consumer credit act, his credit card. We are not protected as a business because the CCA doesnt apply to us so we face a bigger battle. I would still be tempted (if I were Jimmy) to pursue both points above.
Also: Big Shout Out to Liz - Who spotted the publication. Well done GR. I also trawled the net but went in totally the wrong direction even forgetting they were Essex and I was looking under Diamond. You did good !
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Gazzer
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Deleted member 1779
Yes a big difference. One you wont like.
A debit card is like giving someone cash. You are NOT protected. A credit card would have given you protection. I am sorry if it is not the answer you wanted to read.
But in effect by paying on a Debit Card you get no protection.
This does not apply to a Visa Debit card. If its that - you are protected !
A debit card is like giving someone cash. You are NOT protected. A credit card would have given you protection. I am sorry if it is not the answer you wanted to read.
But in effect by paying on a Debit Card you get no protection.
This does not apply to a Visa Debit card. If its that - you are protected !
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jim-meister
i found this guys for people who paid on credit or visa debit card
Section 75 refunds: Free protection for ALL spending...
Section 75 refunds: Free protection for ALL spending...
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Deleted member 1779
If services you bought with your Visa Debit Card do not materialise, then you should contact the bank who has provided you with your Visa debit card within 120 days, requesting they initiate the chargeback process.
It does not mean you will automatically and immediately get your money back. It will initially become a ‘dispute’ in which the claim will be fully investigated by both banks before any money is returned.
All banks who issue Visa cards have only recently agreed to process chargeback requests, and there is still widespread confusion over what it is and how it works. Therefore if you meet a dead end in your discussions with bank staff, persist. The facility is there for you to take advantage of.
The process is called Visa Debit Chargeback, and, as the name suggests, is a procedure in which the banks will ‘charge back’ the value of the original transaction directly from the supplier’s bank, and pass this amount on to you
And unlike your credit card, which imposes a minimum spend of £100, you can claim back any amount of money.
It does not mean you will automatically and immediately get your money back. It will initially become a ‘dispute’ in which the claim will be fully investigated by both banks before any money is returned.
All banks who issue Visa cards have only recently agreed to process chargeback requests, and there is still widespread confusion over what it is and how it works. Therefore if you meet a dead end in your discussions with bank staff, persist. The facility is there for you to take advantage of.
The process is called Visa Debit Chargeback, and, as the name suggests, is a procedure in which the banks will ‘charge back’ the value of the original transaction directly from the supplier’s bank, and pass this amount on to you
And unlike your credit card, which imposes a minimum spend of £100, you can claim back any amount of money.
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Deleted member 9966
Ok, ok, I'll let you into my secret. It was 2 google searches. The first one was something along the lines of "how do I find out who the administrators are" and that took me to an informative forum that told people to try the London Gazette. So I googled London Gazette and found their search page. I remembered that Diamond was just a trading style of Essex Tiling so searched for Essex Tiling and up it popped. Very easy thanks to the internet. I wonder how people would have found those details before the marvels of modern technology.
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diamondtiling
The High Court that hears the bankruptcy cases always list them in the London Gazette plus 3 other papers that are published from where the bankrupt person is known to live or trade.
All the banks have people that check the gazette daily and then cross reference the names and details with their account information.
If they find that you have an account with them then its instantly frozen.
The banks have a duty to do this because once an order of bankruptcy has been issued and somehow the person manages to withdraw loads of cash from a secret bank account then that bank has to answer to the official receiver.
Big Bro is watching.
All the banks have people that check the gazette daily and then cross reference the names and details with their account information.
If they find that you have an account with them then its instantly frozen.
The banks have a duty to do this because once an order of bankruptcy has been issued and somehow the person manages to withdraw loads of cash from a secret bank account then that bank has to answer to the official receiver.
Big Bro is watching.
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charliejamesuk
I spoke with the liquidators 'Thornton Rose' the other day who have informed me that Essex Tiling has no assets that can be used to refund people like me. I have requested this in writing from them as this is what my Credit Card Company are requesting. Once I pass this confirmation back to the Credit Card peeps I should get the refund.
Anyone who needs to contact them the chap in charge of the case is Imran - 0208 4189333.
I'll keep you all posted.
Anyone who needs to contact them the chap in charge of the case is Imran - 0208 4189333.
I'll keep you all posted.
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