Tiling Rates Per Square Meter - How much does tiling cost?

[Dan]

Tiling Rates Per Square Meter / Per Day – How much do tilers charge?

I know this is a hard one to answer. But just as an approximate guide for those searching for how much a tiler costs, and landing on websites such as my builder who seem to be selling tilers for pennies, how much you been charging either day rate or per meter generally?
Perhaps if you could split your work between your fancy stuff, and your bread-winning stuff over the past year or so, then do that so we can see the difference.

And then perhaps price per floors and per walls? If different at all.
Just wanted to get the facts straight for those searching, as £150 per day or £20 per meter isn’t what I’d expect to pay anymore. It’s not the 90’s lol

Tilers replied to our thread here.
How Much Do Tilers Charge?
Is it per square meter or per job or per day rate?

Tiling Rates Per Square Meter - How much does tiling cost?​

It appears to be a bit of a post code lottery perhaps. So we thought we'd get a bit of a thread going to see what others charge and why.


How much do Tilers Charge?

 

[Dumbo]

I've got 250 x 5days x 48 weeks = 60k

 

[Tiler Durden]

Not bad that, your average is around 90 grand a year, have you included VAT on your prices or do you add on
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Still love a good price thread me m,some need to remember some of us know maths 😉 i earn between £100 a week to £2000 a week, and earn around 40 grand a year, but some earn £300/350 a day every day 🙂 .
F uck off and tell the truth you moronic d icks

How did you get to £90k per year?
£300 to £350 per day is correct.
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I’m not sure how many people on here work all day every day but I certainly don’t. You’re assuming I work 52 weeks a year at £350 per day which I don’t. I probably work 40 weeks per year absolute maximum. The day rate is correct though.

 

[Spare Tool]

So £70k a year with 3 months holiday?

 

[Tiler Durden]

If I was earning exactly what my maximum day rate is every single one of the 40 weeks per year I worked and had absolutely no overheads In my business at all then it would be a healthy income wouldn’t it? One thing to also consider is out of the days I’m not actually on the tools, I’m doing other things involved in the business. I’m not sure how long some of you spend doing quotes but I spend a long time putting out complete costings and often visiting customers three or four times for one job so it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. Still, that’s the day rate. £250 flat rate, plus money made on materials.

 

[Dumbo]

If I was earning exactly what my maximum day rate is every single one of the 40 weeks per year I worked and had absolutely no overheads In my business at all then it would be a healthy income wouldn’t it? One thing to also consider is out of the days I’m not actually on the tools, I’m doing other things involved in the business. I’m not sure how long some of you spend doing quotes but I spend a long time putting out complete costings and often visiting customers three or four times for one job so it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. Still, that’s the day rate. £250 flat rate, plus money made on materials.

Why are visiting customers three or four times, I go once 99.9% of the time . Get it sorted in one visit
Quote visit time average 1/2 an hour

 

[Tiler Durden]

I do complete Bathrooms and Kitchens. It might sounds sad 😳 but I bring over Colour boards to show what the customers wall tiles, feature wall, flooring, worktop etc look like together. Also arranging Photo-realistic images. It all takes time. 4 visits is on the high side, usually two or three.
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Also guaranteeing what I’m installing isn’t without its faults. A tap packs up after a year, I’m going over to sort it out free of charge.

 

[Dan]

Swearing! And tempers people. Come on, public thread and all that. Potential customers of yours and / or your colleagues are on here.

 

[widler]

I do complete Bathrooms and Kitchens. It might sounds sad 😳 but I bring over Colour boards to show what the customers wall tiles, feature wall, flooring, worktop etc look like together. Also arranging Photo-realistic images. It all takes time. 4 visits is on the high side, usually two or three.
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Also guaranteeing what I’m installing isn’t without its faults. A tap packs up after a year, I’m going over to sort it out free of charge.

Where in the country are you ? Even at £350 a day @£350 your turnover is at the least £70 grand, and your over heads shouldn’t be massive if you are a sole trader , unless you have premises and employees , vans etc .
So let’s say £60 grand a year profit , that’s a hell of a wage for a sole trader .
Not many on here , or in the trade I know earn over 60 grand a year , and I know a lotta lotta people in the trade
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Anyway, off to spend some of my money , bye

 

[Tiler Durden]

Do you know many people in the Kitchen and Bathroom Industry?
£250 per day plus money made on materials you spend a lot of time specifying isn’t anything out of the ordinary in the south. It’s all relative anyway. My mortgage is ridiculous.

 

[Flintstone]

If some one is supplying bathrooms and or kitchens it is very feasible that they could earn a lot.

 

[Dumbo]

I don't follow your logic though . If went around spending a whole day getting ready for job then went and did the job in a day and charged £400 . You would say I earn't £400 pound a day whereas I would say I earn't £200 a day

 

[widler]

If some one is supplying bathrooms and or kitchens it is very feasible that they could earn a lot.

No #### Sherlock, but are we earning £3/4/500 a day every day , or averaging around £200 a day in reality .
I was earning a lot more than 3/400 a day the other momth or so, but in reality , over the year I’m averaging around £200 a day ish .
But I suppose, if I like bigging my *** up, I could say “ yeah i earn between £400 or £500 a day” which is around 100 grand a year with 6 weeks holiday thrown in 😉
But I’m not, as I like 12 weeks holiday a year

 

[Tiler Durden]

I don't follow your logic though . If went around spending a whole day getting ready for job then went and did the job in a day and charged £400 . You would say I earn't £400 pound a day whereas I would say I earn't £200 a day

It wouldn’t be like that though. It would be more like ‘I spent a day organising a job that will be taking me three weeks to complete’
I partly agree with Widler but not spread out over the whole year, it’s more spread out over a whole career. Going through two recessions I earned very little, sat at home sometimes earning nothing. Now that the times are good, I want to earn as much as I can. I spend more time pricing work and putting higher prices in to get the better, more profitable jobs. There is lots of work out there. There might not be next year. Maybe the guys who are charging a more modest amount might have plenty of work next year when I’m sat doing nothing or scraping by on low day rate.

 

[Just Rizzle]

That's very cheap Ray, what do you do about washing and drying times before sealing? What sealer do you use on the damp stone?

we washed and sealed as we removed them from the crates and layed them was very warm and windy were we were working on the pennines at bows moor. used lithothin stain stop 2 coats and finished with a satin ion wax solution after we grouted in bal pebble.
we some times rapid dry stone using a plumbers blow torch if needed and plenty of micro fiber cloths

 

[Dan]

Let's try and be nice people. We're not trying to grill each other in this thread, are we?

Be civil please.

Nobody needs to reveal their earnings, or how their business operates, or whether they're VAT registered, or how much they pay 'our lad', or whatever.

I'm just generalising in asking the forum - so that potential customers can see what prices should be in the real world.

Please please try and not end up arguing with somebody else online, on a forum, about tiles, and get yourself worked up about it. It's not worth it.

Work tomorrow and all tha'. 🙂

 

[Just Rizzle]

See at m rate it sounds cheap as chips but at day rate its £50 an hour which is pretty good, especially if your paying lad a tenner 😉

a number of years ago did a bathroom on a price which he agreed started on the monday finished on wednesday 3 days did 38 mtrs 600x300 charged him£1100 it took me 26hrs which he said was a better rate /hr than he was on i replied to him i did it on a rate of £30 /mtr and hrly rates are irrelevant as the price was agreed in writing and i only stated the start date and that i would be finished BY the end of the week and not that it would take me a week..
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if you think tiling is profitable i make more supplying and laying Karndean lvt
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See at m rate it sounds cheap as chips but at day rate its £50 an hour which is pretty good, especially if your paying lad a tenner 😉

if you read my post thats 50; hr EACH🙂

 

[Just Rizzle]

IFyou look at my photo on the left its a job we did about 12 yrs ago as the main feature in a stately home in the dales its an ellipse circle 7mtrs x 5mtrs gray granite with a black granite border layed on a heated floor on a ditra matt decoupling matt stain stop sealer by lithothin with tilemaster adhesives .
each tile was precision cut curve and would only fit in one place .it was basically a colour by numbers as each tile had a number or letter. we fitted it for 20% of the cost of the tiles. the tiles cost 18k plus vat we made
£3600 and did it in a week

 

[Tony_C]

So this is a pricing thread or a boasting thread? I'm lost these days 🙄

 

[Dan]

Bless. Don't be harsh. He's proud of that. He's started a new thread about it so we can bring this back to tiling. 🙂

Less of the sarcy attitude matey please. 😛

 

[Tony_C]

That wasn't directed at just one person. Plenty of boasting around.

Nothing wrong with being proud of a job of course, that's why we have the threads for posting the picture of those jobs in but it's never signed off with how much you made from it though. The work is what you should be proud off showing online, not telling us the amount you made, isn't that what that Facebook group is for?

The thread was for discussing rates for the public to judge costs in their area, it's a bit different to just randomly state a job you done and that you made x amount from it. If anything isn't what i'm pointing out more for keeping the thread on track @Dan ?

 

[Dan]

That wasn't directed at just one person. Plenty of boasting around.

Nothing wrong with being proud of a job of course, that's why we have the threads for posting the picture of those jobs in but it's never signed off with how much you made from it though. The work is what you should be proud off showing online, not telling us the amount you made, isn't that what that Facebook group is for?

The thread was for discussing rates for the public to judge costs in their area, it's a bit different to just randomly state a job you done and that you made x amount from it. If anything isn't what i'm pointing out more for keeping the thread on track @Dan ?

Spot on mate. Couldnt have said it better myself.

I think we have a really good guage now so I'm going to close off this thread. If people want to post their lovely work, make a new thread or upload an album to the media area. But don't mention prices for jobs etc. That's not done in any other public area.

Thanks for your replies people. I'll try an average those out somehow and blog about it as soon as I have some time.

You can show customers the official unofficial pricing guide then perhaps to stop them trying to knock you down etc. Not sure. Left with you. Defo blogging about this though it has been an interesting read.

 

[Flintstone]

Perhaps clean this thread up a bit, Dan.

 

[Dan]

Perhaps clean this thread up a bit, Dan.

PMSL

Is that what you would do?

I'll get right on it boss. Lol

(I'm messing mate 🙂 )

 

[WilsTilingServices JSY]

This is my price list, based in jersey, channel island.

 

[Sjtiling]

This has all got to be based regionally...however I don't think for one minute someones getting away with charging 40-£50pm all day every day, that's going on £200k a year...lets be realistic eh

Based on 10-20m a day, which is being realistic, we must have some millionaires on here then..

I agree with your comment 100% if people can charge this for the odd job then fair play but day to day works working for a subbie nowhere near these prices.
Certainly not many tilers out there pricing up work in their Ferrari’s that’s for sure

 

[Dumbo]

Site work is a completely different animal to domestic .
On site work how often do spend time putting down dust sheets every morning and lifting them up every night . Getting materials on the way to your job .
I did a bathroom the other month , skilling ceilings , not large tiles but there was only one whole tile on the job .
How often do you cut a tile , lay a tile and then cut a tile because that's the end of the run .
I've done site work, tile a whole bathroom in a day , i can't manage that in someone's house . That's why I charge more than site rates day in day out but I don't drive a Ferrari because it ain't site work .
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Oh and I have been to a house that was tiled by site workers . It had failed 1000 x 500 and the reason it had failed bad adhesive application and no back buttering , because of the rates they were on they wouldn't of had time to back butter
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And to be honest I would be happy to throw 600x600 on a floor in a large building at the rates you site workers work for because I would probably drive a better car and van than I do now

 

[Tile Marble Granite]

Hexagon tiling, 2 different sizes, approx 250mm and 100mm. Received quotes in East London ranging from £60/m2 to £100/m2 excluding addy, grout and trim.

That's what I am talking about!

 

[Tile Marble Granite]

Stone £110 per m2 installation, plus bullnose fabrication, plus materials
Ceramics £80 per m2, plus materials
Prep work, waterproofing, Dittra matting etc. extra charges
I would say, you gotta know the trade from head to toe to get these prices. Loads of tilers out there claim to be the best but cannot deliver a top notch job
I have been in business for about 22 years now, whenever the customer ask me why I charge so much as on MyBuilder website claims the average national price is £20 to£40 per m2, I tell them ******* to have them deliver my jobs, won't happen

Take a look at these pictures below, it took me two months to deliver this bathroom, all by myself. From taking the entire bathroom apart to joist, floor, walls , waterproofing, limestone installation and fabrication.




I hope this helps the forum
More pictures on my website

www.customtilemarblegranite.com

 

[Dumbo]

Stone £110 per m2 installation, plus bullnose fabrication, plus materials
Ceramics £80 per m2, plus materials
Prep work, waterproofing, Dittra matting etc. extra charges
I would say, you gotta know the trade from head to toe to get these prices. Loads of tilers out there claim to be the best but cannot deliver a top notch job
I have been in business for about 22 years now, whenever the customer ask me why I charge so much as on MyBuilder website claims the average national price is £20 to£40 per m2, I tell them ******* to have them deliver my jobs, won't happen

Take a look at these pictures below, it took me two months to deliver this bathroom, all by myself. From taking the entire bathroom apart to joist, floor, walls , waterproofing, limestone installation and fabrication.


Those of you who talk prices here pls post some pictures of your work so we can see what you can deliver and tell us why you charge so cheap?

I hope this helps the forum
More pictures on my website

www.customtilemarblegranite.com

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Sorry to raise clips .
But Its like the I don't use clips brigade .
Let's see your videos of sliding a 2 pound coin over the floor

 

[Tile Marble Granite]

Sorry to raise clips .
But Its like the I don't use clips brigade .
Let's see your videos of sliding a 2 pound coin over the floor

Anytime, I will compete with you, and not just with a video, will take you in my job and slide the £2 coin yourself.

 

[Dumbo]

Anytime, I will compete with you, and not just with a video, will take you in my job and slide the £2 coin yourself.

You'll be alright if I use my coin , I filed the edges off , it's almost like a ball