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sjorlo

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Hello all,
I've just had our kitchen and hallway tiled and the tiler used B & Q's own brand floor tile adhesive and grout to stick the tiles down (I bought the adhesive), a few of the tiles had come loose so I got them back to sort the job out but when they pulled the offending tiles up the adhesive was either still wet and stinking of ammonia (3 weeks after originally fitting) or absolutely bone dry and powdery and could be scraped off with a fingernail. The floor was concrete and prepared with PVA prior to fitting the tiles, apparantly PVA is a no no (as I've found out after reading this forum) but some of the tiles are stuck down solid, does this sound like a bad batch of adhesive? - they used about 6 tubs in total, it's just some areas of the kitchen that haven't stuck. It looks like the whole kitchen and hallway is going to have to be pulled up and re-layed as when one tile is knocked out, the one next to it is cracking. I've had the store manager from B & Q round and I'm just waiting on their decision as to whether they are going to pay to put it all right (total cost including labour, tiles, adhesive and grout was about £1200).
Any ideas, comments, advice would be greatly appreciated as I'm now close to tears having all but finished renovating the house (except for a few bits of Silicon sealant in the kitchen) only to find I'm possibly going to have to find £1200 to put the floor right.

Many Thanks,

Simon
 
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DHTiling

Hello simon and welcome...

That type of adhesive is not recommended by the pro's....and i'm surprised any tiler worth his salt has used it...

It can take ages to set and needs air contact to dry...so grouting to early will result in soft adhesive for a long time....it normaly takes upto 48 hrs to set but we have heard of it taking over a week in some cases..
 
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sWe

Dispersion adhesives are usually not suitable for tiling floors either. Though some manufacturers have dispersion adhesives listed as suitable for tiling floors, they usually have the disclaimer that they're not suitable for dense ceramic type tiles (Porcelain for example) and most types of natural stone, which is what is normally put on floors. Where as cementious adhesives harden through hydration, ie the binding of water, dispersion adhesive harden through dehydration, which is the loss of water. Dense tiles don't let water pass through as readily as porous tiles, and if dispersion adhesives are used anyways, theoretically, the adhesive might never fully dry.
 

CJ

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As above......crap stuff that takes weeks to dry.......if at all.

No tiler in his right mind would use ANY of this kind of stuff............so either the tiler is out of his mind.........or he is NOT a pro tiler. I tend to favour them both to be honest.

To be honest,(again) I would recommend the LOT comes up and is done with the right materials. :oops:
 

sjorlo

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This is the offending "adhesive".
 

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sjorlo

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To be honest, if B & Q don't agree to put the whole floor right for me at their expense, I think I'm going to sue them, I'm so p'ed off it is untrue!. Surely they can't sell "Floor Tile Adhesive" that isn't fit for sticking down floor tiles. The tiles were "Padova 80" ceramic floor tiles available in Topps so they aren't anything exotic, in fact I believe they are the most popular floor tiles in Topps. I suppose I could blame the tiler but at the end of the day its really down to B & Q selling products unfit for purpose.
 
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david campbell

not fit for purpose!
is the unibond stuff not about the same price! it comes in tubs like and actually has bags of cement based addy in it,used it a few weeks ago a for a customer who bought it and it wasn't too bad, got to admit i totally s"*t myself when he pulled the tubs out of a cupboard though lol!
 
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smurf21

I Agree with you all and i personally would never use ready mixed tubbed addy on a floor in any situ....... But surely if the product states that it is suitable for the applications intended ie fixing floor tiles to the given surface, then by law if it isnt suitable then the manufacturer of that product is to blame not the tiler.( and it wasnt me who fitted them..lol)
 
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DHTiling

I Agree with you all and i personally would never use ready mixed tubbed addy on a floor in any situ....... But surely if the product states that it is suitable for the applications intended ie fixing floor tiles to the given surface, then by law if it isnt suitable then the manufacturer of that product is to blame not the tiler.( and it wasnt me who fitted them..lol)


As i said yes i agree about the product ...but the tiler should have known better....

Hands up who would have used it.....?
 

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