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Jez(UK)

Hello everybody !

Discovered this site today and I guess/hope I'm in the right place to ask lots of questions !

A bit of background. I'm 45, married, one child, been living abroad for 5 years, tried a new business venture abroad for 5 years........failed :sad_smile: so recently returned to the UK (about 2 months ago). All the jobs I've ever had have been office based, computer based. I've got quite a high level of education (Uni BSc) but the failed business venture which very nearly ended my marriage of 15years, put me through a fair amount of depression and a very low point for my wife and I. I know it's something that has happened to many others before me, but nothing prepared me for being this low (I'm not looking for sympathy :grouphug:, just trying to paint a bit of a picture).

Anyway, now we're back in the UK and trying to get back on an even keel I've been thinking of what I can do to earn a living. I could go back into what I used to do (Freelance 3D Computer Graphics) but I know that my skills are rusty and I'd need to retrain, and I'd need to invest in a fair amount of kit (all of which would be very expensive and very time consuming). And because I've been out of this field for a fair amount of time, I'm not even sure I'd be 'up there' as things have moved on a great deal since I was in this field. I then had a 'light bulb' moment where I knew that I needed training in something and in a flash, Tiling came into my head. Although I've never tiled in my life, I'm not too bad with my hands and I know I'm a very careful, detailed type person who takes pride in doing a good job (and likes to wow people!). I also feel that having gone through the failed business venture and having for the past 8 years been working for myself, a) I don't fancy working for someone else and b) I think tiling would be a nice way to getting back to actually earning a living again (i.e. I don't believe it'd be too stressful/demanding - I'm imagining it to be quite therapeutic in some ways and certainly a welcome change from all the careers I've held in the past).

It looks very much like a perfect match.

So, I've looked at a few Centres for a 4 week course, and I've yet to see any one of them but I will go and visit all 3 next week to help make my mind up.

They are;

Alpine (in Rye),
Diamond (in Arundel),
TCS in Essex.

Are there any others ??? (I'm in Crowborough, East Sussex, just outside Tunbridge Wells, Kent).

The more I think of doing this course and setting up in Tiling as a Self Employed person, the more I fancy doing it.

Questions;

1) Can someone, who has never laid a tile in their life, after 4 weeks, be able to earn a decent living from it ??

2) What sort of investment for everything (excluding training) would you expect to have to put up to get yourself going ?

3) Sillyish question, but what transport do most tilers use to do their job ? (as my car isn't suitable). Car or van ??

4) What sort of money would you expect someone like me to be earning in yr 1 ??

5) what do you hate about the job ??

6) What do you like about it ?

7) Is it messy / very messy ??

8) Is it unhealthy in any way (dusty, inhalation) ??

9) Is it fatiguing (mentally / physically) ??

Those are some of the questions I have for now :clap:

I hope someone will get back to me with some useful answers - and I apologise if I've waffled on a bit.

Many thanks,

Jez
 
G

grumpygrouter

Hi Jez welcome to the forums. I retrained at 49 and I am only now starting to make a liveable wage out of it. I also did a 4 week course (PTS in Warrington) and I started up going it alone straight away.

It cost me around £5000 to be trained and up and running fully.
I use my BMW 3 series estate as my "van"
Although the work can give great job satisfaction it can also be very frustrating when things don't go right.

is it messy? Yes, very
It also has potential health issues because of the chemicals used in the adhesives and such like (portland cement), is a very physical job and can cause knee and back problems if you don't take precautions.

It is fatiguing both physically and mentally.

Hope this helps.:thumbsup:
 
D

DHTiling

Hello and welcome to tilers forums Jez....wow what an introduction......

take a look at our tiling course feedback forum for any courses in your area and take that option from there....Good luck for the future jez and feel free to fire any questions to the members , they love it.. lol lol...

Tiling Courses Feedback - tilersforums.com | Tile Forums | Tiling Forum
 
J

Jez(UK)

Cheers Guys, I appreciate the answers.

I must admit that what's putting me off is the 'bloody hard work' aspect of it!

Of course I wasn't expecting people to say it'd be a walk in the park, but not sure I was expecting it to be back breaking !

I'm not the fittest, strongest chap out there, so not sure how I'd fare in that sense (I'm lacking a few muscles at the moment.....).

Of course most schools offer a taster day, and that'll tell me if I'll like it / am up for it, but I'm sort of toying with the idea of doing a course anyway, even if it's not something that I'll end up doing full-time.

Is it really *very* messy, and *dangerously* toxic ?? Please can someone elaborate. Thanks.

Regards,

Jez
 
D

DHTiling

As long as you use the correct safety gear it is not hazardous.....dust masks and goggles a must .. at least.....commercial tiling can be harder work than domestic....physically i mean...domestic is fine for most peeps.....
Yes box's of tiles can be heavy but you manage..lol lol.....as for being messy ..not really if you work as cleanly as you can.....imo......
 
W

White Room

Cheers Guys, I appreciate the answers.

I must admit that what's putting me off is the 'bloody hard work' aspect of it!

Of course I wasn't expecting people to say it'd be a walk in the park, but not sure I was expecting it to be back breaking !

I'm not the fittest, strongest chap out there, so not sure how I'd fare in that sense (I'm lacking a few muscles at the moment.....).

Of course most schools offer a taster day, and that'll tell me if I'll like it / am up for it, but I'm sort of toying with the idea of doing a course anyway, even if it's not something that I'll end up doing full-time.

Is it really *very* messy, and *dangerously* toxic ?? Please can someone elaborate. Thanks.

Regards,

Jez

Any job can be messy if you let it get that way, Any dust can be dangerous over the long term. I always try and mix outside so less chance of breathing any. You say about muscles are soft maybe a good time to start some gym work:grin:
 
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D

DHTiling

Thanks Dave. I wasn't ever contemplating commercial tiling, just residential work.

BTW, I always used to think that a clean worker was an efficient one !! And as for lifting lots of boxes of tiles, isn't that what you get a young helper for (okay maybe not initially) ??!!


It certainly is mate.....:lol:....i only do domestic and you can't afford to get to messy.....

You will be fine mate..let us know how you get on and what course you go for......thanks for taking time to sign up jez and good luck for the future...you sound as if you need some good luck....:thumbsup:
 
F

Fekin

1) Can someone, who has never laid a tile in their life, after 4 weeks, be able to earn a decent living from it ??

2) What sort of investment for everything (excluding training) would you expect to have to put up to get yourself going ?

3) Sillyish question, but what transport do most tilers use to do their job ? (as my car isn't suitable). Car or van ??

4) What sort of money would you expect someone like me to be earning in yr 1 ??

5) what do you hate about the job ??

6) What do you like about it ?

7) Is it messy / very messy ??

8) Is it unhealthy in any way (dusty, inhalation) ??

9) Is it fatiguing (mentally / physically) ??

1. Yes, if you have it in you to put in the time and effort.

2. Depended on the quality of tools and van you wished to start with.
Could be anything from £500 for all tools and cutters and a £700 van, all the way upto £5000 or more.

3. I use a Mondeo hatchback.

4. Earnings all depend on where you live, how well you market yourself and how much luck you have managing to network with different trades.

5. Don't really hate anything about the job, customers maybe, but not the job :lol:

6. Different tiles in a different room in a different house on a different flooring or wall every job, being your own boss, creating something the customers going to "hopefully like" :thumbsup:

7. Some days you can finish without a spot of adhesive on you, some days you can look like you fell into the bucket :grin:

8. Always ware a mask while mixing powdered addy and grout.

9. It can be.

Have a go on the course then see what you think.

Welcome to the forums :thumbsup:
 

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