A little help for a beginner please...

[Mozzer]

Hey all, just joined for a little advice if you could be so kind... Basically I am doing up our bathroom on a budget so doing the work myself and such... I have tiled the walls (Some on top of old tiles, some onto plasterboard), and that all seems fine...

Now, i'm going to be doing the floor tomorrow (Hopefully), and just want to make sure i don't make any costly mistakes.

I have ripped up the flooring that was already in (Lino on top of caulk tiles on top of... hardboard?) so am down to the floorboards now.

I was planning on picking up a sheet or two of hardboard (3mm) because i want to use the thinnest base possible so I don't have to plane the door down or anything... however I have just read that I might come into problems with this with the adhesive not soaking into it if it is 'veneered'? I take it this means if it has that glossy kind of surface?

What is the thinnest product I can get to do this with? Or should I look at using some flexible floor tile adhesive? I am going to be laying electric underfloor heating too, so if that makes a difference then i'd like to know about that too.

Thanks in advance guys

 

[Mozzer]

Also, have some "No Nonsense tile adhesive" that i bought from Screwfix (Because it was the cheapest thing they had...) however when i came to tiling the walls with it, it was an awful product, didn't set nearly fast enough and tiles were sliding down, so i bought pre-mixed stuff which worked a treat...

I noticed the no nonsense stuff dried like cement in the tub after i left it overnight, so will it be fine to use that for the flooring or should I invest in something better there too?

Thankyou.

 

[wivers]

If your floor boards are flat enough and screwed to the joists all okay then you might be able to get away with a 6 mm hardibaker board.

Some peole prefer to use the 12mm but as you said you need to keep the hight down and if yer boards are okay then 6 mm should be okay imo.

As for the addy that you have i would throw it in the neatest river mate.

powder on the floor is the way to go. If yer worried about your open time then i'd sugest using a SPF wich is a slow setting flexible cement adhesive.

 

[White Room]

Hardboard is a no no, get either 12mm ply, prime the edges and the side which sit on the floor boards and screw every 300mm only into the floorboards not thru them. Invest in a better adhesive single part flexible and flexi grout. Go to a good tile outlet who should advise on correct addy for you

 

[CJ CERAMICS]

as always wivers has got it spot on, would also use a good flexi grout.
think i need to take a course in typing so i can reply quicker lol.

 

[faithhealer]

Welcome to the forum Mozzer, the good news is that you have come to the right place, bad news is that you need a bit of help here. For starters don't tile on 3mm hardboard. Read up on hardiebacker board on this site and if you are considering UFH check out our sponsor UHEAT. No nonsence was the cheapest was it, I wonder why?

 

[Mozzer]

Haha, yes I wonder why too haithhealer.

Thanks for the advice so far people, much appreciated.

The no nonsense stuff isn't premixed, it's basically just cement I think... looks like it anyway. I will get some of the better stuff i saw in a local shop.

Also, these other backers... will I be able to buy them from somewhere like Topps Tiles or B&Q?

 

[DHTiling]

Evening mozzer and welcome....:welcome:

 

[faithhealer]

Mozzer mate, decide on ufh before you do anything else

 

[Mozzer]

I already have the underfloor heating, it is a 3mm heating element cable.. no mat to it, it's just a length of cable i lay to suit.

 

[brian c]

do you know how to fit the cable m8?

oh and :welcome:

 

[Mozzer]

Yeah , no problem with the cable, i'm a spark by trade.

 

[bootsmckiber]

If you're a sparky by trade I would think for sure you would have a few favours to call in.I'd much rather shave the bottom of a door than skimp on the thickness of your substrate.Like life,you'll alway's have a good finished product if your foundation is solid.
If your not confident on what your doing, as a tradesman you should know to call a proffesional,I'm sure if you asked around you'd be able to trade some spark time for some tile time,good luck,Mike

 

[Derry]

hi, welcome to the forums

 

[bassman]

:welcome: to the forum. have to agree with the dont skimp on the substrate to save planing the door comment. You wouldnt dream of usig 1.5mm t&e to save channeling the wall....Would you?