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DHTiling
That is the biggest load of tosh..
cheap or top dollar///he deserves better than that..
That is the biggest load of tosh..
cheap or top dollar///he deserves better than that..
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Time's Ran Out
Dave - Your right customers deserve better than the tiling in the photos suppied in the thread by Forum H.
But what I think frostfree was getting at is we don't know how much forum H paid to have it done or whether his recommended 'tiler' was just that - a tiler.
I don't think he was saying its acceptable to have lippage if you have a cheap job I took it that 'that is the standard of work you get if you have a cheap job'!
All the replies are critical of the workmanship but its the old saying pay peanuts get....
Timeless John.
But what I think frostfree was getting at is we don't know how much forum H paid to have it done or whether his recommended 'tiler' was just that - a tiler.
I don't think he was saying its acceptable to have lippage if you have a cheap job I took it that 'that is the standard of work you get if you have a cheap job'!
All the replies are critical of the workmanship but its the old saying pay peanuts get....
Timeless John.
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smurf21
in my opinion regardless of how much was paid, anyone who takes on the job puts in a quote there happy with so should therefore do the job to the standard the customer expects if it was a full time tiler that did this job then he doesnt take pride in his work or his reputation, lets not sugar coat this its p poor a little more time and prep would have got the desired result. this would prob have been acceptable with a riven ceramic or slate even but not a polished tile they are unforgiving......chase him down and get it improved. For £79 m2 plus fixing and matts i would want it like glass.
If you dont think you can get the desired effect then these so called tilers should not take on such jobs and the only way they will learn is to get them back foc...but this is my opinion.....RANT OVER.
If you dont think you can get the desired effect then these so called tilers should not take on such jobs and the only way they will learn is to get them back foc...but this is my opinion.....RANT OVER.
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oogabooga
Hmmm, don't think you're right. Tile on rhs in 2nd photo the face (what little there is visible) drops vertically. So easy on the exclamation mark!!:lol:
Regardless, the other photos indicate that the job's not that flash.
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Forum_H
Hi All. Just catching up with the recent replies re costs etc. So to confirm:
Area is 8 sq metres (charged for 9 of course)
Laytex supply and fit - £94
Tiles - £79.15 sq m
Fitting, incl adhesive and grout £354
Total we were charged for whole job - £1191
Worth mentioning that originally he quoted £280 for fitting, so we queried the charge but he said the £280 was for porcelain not stone. But we found his original scribbles and he def wrote down £280 for stone, so easy to challenge.
A qualified tiler (we assume) with a sign written van and business cards with apparently 20+ years experience.
In case it's relevant - he pre-sealed the tiles before fitting.
HTH in terms of any further comments as to whether for this sort of money we should be expecting virtual perfection! Think we may need to get a tiler round to assess it professionally and see where we go from there.
Thanks.
Area is 8 sq metres (charged for 9 of course)
Laytex supply and fit - £94
Tiles - £79.15 sq m
Fitting, incl adhesive and grout £354
Total we were charged for whole job - £1191
Worth mentioning that originally he quoted £280 for fitting, so we queried the charge but he said the £280 was for porcelain not stone. But we found his original scribbles and he def wrote down £280 for stone, so easy to challenge.
A qualified tiler (we assume) with a sign written van and business cards with apparently 20+ years experience.
In case it's relevant - he pre-sealed the tiles before fitting.
HTH in terms of any further comments as to whether for this sort of money we should be expecting virtual perfection! Think we may need to get a tiler round to assess it professionally and see where we go from there.
Thanks.
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frostfree
Dave- I totally agree that Forum H deserves a better standard of tile fitting. I was just trying to make the 'get what you pay for arguement'.
In an ideal world no lippage would occur on any installation.
I would like to know the full facts of the situation before condeming another tradespersons work.
We dont know:-
1. The amount paid for the tile fitting.
2. Time constraints for the tile fitting (was tiler under pressure to finish so other trades could get in or did other trades hold tiler up).
3. Did the job specification change as the job progressed.
4. Good or bad relationship between tiler and customer.
5. Skill level and expertise of tiler.
We do know:-
1. Forum H is unhappy with amount of lippage.
From reading the initial post the tiler was recommended and had bothered to lay slc a few days before laying tiles. This sounds to me like a good start. Just wondering if something has changed as the job has progressed which would account for the lippage.
It may be the tiler was simply having an off day or couldnt give a monkeys about the quality of his work.
I do not know the tiler or the customer. I am simply trying to get the full facts of the situation and remain as unbiased as possible before deciding whether the lippage is acceptable or not on this particular instalation.
I think it is important to gain as much background info as possible before blaming either tiler or customer.
In an ideal world no lippage would occur on any installation.
I would like to know the full facts of the situation before condeming another tradespersons work.
We dont know:-
1. The amount paid for the tile fitting.
2. Time constraints for the tile fitting (was tiler under pressure to finish so other trades could get in or did other trades hold tiler up).
3. Did the job specification change as the job progressed.
4. Good or bad relationship between tiler and customer.
5. Skill level and expertise of tiler.
We do know:-
1. Forum H is unhappy with amount of lippage.
From reading the initial post the tiler was recommended and had bothered to lay slc a few days before laying tiles. This sounds to me like a good start. Just wondering if something has changed as the job has progressed which would account for the lippage.
It may be the tiler was simply having an off day or couldnt give a monkeys about the quality of his work.
I do not know the tiler or the customer. I am simply trying to get the full facts of the situation and remain as unbiased as possible before deciding whether the lippage is acceptable or not on this particular instalation.
I think it is important to gain as much background info as possible before blaming either tiler or customer.
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Forum_H
PS to my last post ... no knee pads and tiles weren't covered as they were fitted. No sign as far as we're aware of any spacers or levels being used along the way. It took him about an hour to do the laytexting, then just under 6 hours to fit and grout the tiles.
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Bolter
I would expect nothing but the best for that price tbh.
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Forum_H
Frostfree - please see post above - no 35 - which crossed with yours. Job didn't change along the way. Originally he was booked to come in Tues/Wed 26/27 May, as kitchen fitting was due to complete Fri 22 May. Kitchen finished Fri 22 and he came up that evening and that's when he said the laytexing was needed, and that he had to jiggle days around, but would have it finished by Fri 29 May. No pressure from us re that - we were just pleased it would be finished before the weekend. And surprised that it only took him a day when originally he said two. No difficulties along the way, nor so in discussions with him since. We're fair and reasonable people and always try to treat everyone as we expect to be treated ourselves. Typical Brits in fact, find it very difficult to complain and quite frankly it's making us feel sick having to do so, never mind being unhappy with the finished product! Ta.
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frostfree
Many thanks Forum H. This is the info we needed.
You have every right to expect a top notch job.
If you can calmly and rationally explain your concerns to the tiler in an amicable manner I see no reason why the tiler should not rectify the problems at his cost.
Hopefully you will end up with the floor you always wanted and the tilers reputation remains intact.
I have found diplomacy usually wins the day in these situations.
You have every right to expect a top notch job.
If you can calmly and rationally explain your concerns to the tiler in an amicable manner I see no reason why the tiler should not rectify the problems at his cost.
Hopefully you will end up with the floor you always wanted and the tilers reputation remains intact.
I have found diplomacy usually wins the day in these situations.
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