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Time's Ran Out

This design of blade is quite good but it does suffer the problem of being particularly fragile.
Snag it, and you'll probably tear a chunk out of it.
I know of a fixer on here who had snagged both my pro Gres and his own Rubi viper and torn chunks out of both.
And the Extol industries version of the same blade suffers the same problem.

We'd be interested in knowing who is the blade ruiner?
 
I

Italy

This design of blade is quite good but it does suffer the problem of being particularly fragile.
Snag it, and you'll probably tear a chunk out of it.
I know of a fixer on here who had snagged both my pro Gres and his own Rubi viper and torn chunks out of both.
And the Extol industries version of the same blade suffers the same problem.
I do not agree,
definitely, the problem is another....
Five years that progres use, never had any problems :p
 
I

Italy

however, this blade is just for porcelain.
not to cut, brick, quartz etc.
and not 20mm, immediately burn.
it would be better, in these trends, specify, cutting water, or dry cutting.
because with water, many blades cutting ability.
the problem remains dry cutting. ( not for me). ;)
ps
I promised that no longer speaks of blades.
but I was biting my tongue. ;)
 
I

Italy

It's worth a try.

We can buy off the shelf stuff like the RUBI blade above, but if we're unbranded (or ATS branded) it needs to be substantially cheaper to attract customers.

If a Montolit DNA is £150 and the ATS version comes in at £120, you're going to buy the DNA every time, it's branded and trusted.

Now if ours comes in at £60 that's a different story and a big saving.

Ultimately it comes down to how many we'd sell. We've been asked and researched a number of products that we've decided not to go ahead with due to concerns over sales volumes.
I disagree, if I understand correctly, you are saying, more or less, Montolit blade from 160 €, could be as ats 60 €?
like saying, tcs Montolit in italy € 30, could be as ats blue blade from 15 €?
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O

Old Mod

Spent some time this afternoon trying the blade out on different materials.
Porcel-Thin
10mm porcelain
12mm green slate
20mm limestone
20mm porcelain
30mm slate
Quartz again.

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All dry cut, regular dressing in between each material.
Don't like swapping materials with blades, I find you get better longevity by having one blade per material type, and once you swap from one to another, when you go back, it's never quite the same.
But anyway.
Here are the resulting images.
Porcel-Thin dry, not great.
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10mm porcelain

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20mm limestone

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20mm porcelain.

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12mm slate, destroyed it as expected.

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30mm slate, cut it like a dream!

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Then went around again this time with a sponge.

Porcel-Thin.
From the left of the 4 cuts (not far left broken piece!) first two were wet, then tried dry again and as you can see tike broke. Went wet for 4th and again, ok.

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10mm porcelain wet
Far right of 4 was dry again, not as good.
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12mm slate wet cut, perfect cut and no flaking.

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Then back dry with Quartz.
Perfect cuts. (Left side)

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This was state of blade after

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Lost most of the colour when using sponge, but that's to be expected.

It stayed very cool when using it dry.
After testing on every material I could hold the blade between my fingers within moments, in fact pretty much as soon as it stopped rotating.
It cut most material very quickly, the only ones that were slow by comparison were the 20mm porcelain and 30mm slate, but what else would you expect.
Oh and it didn't burn with the 20mm porcelain.

So in order of material with best finish
Quartz, 30mm slate and limestone, all extremely good cuts and difficult to put in order.
20mm porcelain next.
Then 10mm porcelain.
Porcel-Thin
And 12mm slate dry last. Disintegrated.

Would I buy the blade?
If it was £15 and under, probably.
I say that price because I can source very similar for £12.99
 
C

Concrete guy

Very comprehensive thanks.
however, this blade is just for porcelain.
not to cut, brick, quartz etc.
and not 20mm, immediately burn.
it would be better, in these trends, specify, cutting water, or dry cutting.
because with water, many blades cutting ability.
the problem remains dry cutting. ( not for me). ;)
ps
I promised that no longer speaks of blades.
but I was biting my tongue. ;)

Abbiamo inviato una lama a voi Antonio . Quando arriva si può provare
 
C

Concrete guy

It might be worth mentioning that the 10mm porcelain was a printed plank, so chipping is common.
Didn't have any full bodied to hand.

It's the 20mm porcelain that interests me actually. This product seems to be troublesome when it comes to cutting dry.

As for costs these are going to be in the region of the price you mentioned, these are not expensive blades. To be honest most blades are not expensive, most of what you pay is importer/wholesaler/retailer mark up, particuarly for the branded stuff.

We'll get a few hundred of these in production in 115mm and 125mm and see how we get on with them.
 

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