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cornish_crofter
I've decided to post this here as opposed to the Wetrooms Forum for now, as I really feel that I need to get this off my chest, and some of you may have a good laugh at my expense.
It was my own fault.:mad2:
First wetroom, decided to, sort of, combine two stages into one and got completely stuffed!:mad2:
I'm putting in a Tilux wetroom former (from Wetdecs). Now the wetroom former is thicker than the actual screed on top of the concrete floor. So I had to chisel out some of the concrete sub base. It actually came out quite well with a breaker, and I avoided having to take out the whole concrete slab.
Today I was faced with a former that was cut to size and fitted, the gulley and waste in the right position, a rough surface resembing the Alps in concrete to go on top of, oh, and more bags of spf than was good for me:lol:
Then I had the brainwave - I told you that I had too much tile adhesive.
I decided in my wisdom to screed and lay in a day. I can hear you all now (NOOOOOOOOOO!).
Just after I had started the plumber, who I had got chatting to poked his head around the corner and offered his advice to the effect that he finds it easier to do it in two stages. I agreed, but I was already too committed, now mixing my 2nd bag of adhesive - yes alarm bells were ringing in my head too :lol:
After a couple of attempts I actually got the thing level, square and solid - didn't move at all. Great, I thought, now for the gulley...................
Well, that's where it all kind of went.......Pete Tonge.
Try as I might I couldn't get the waste to slide in. I had to lift the former, which was not easy as it was so well bedded down. I found that some adhesive had got onto the flange and was stopping the waste from clicking home, this shouldn't have been a surprise really as there was two bags worth sloshing around :rofl:
It was obvious that the adhesive was beginning to set, as some of it was mixed quite a while ago and my window of opportunity was now closing fast.
After a bit more messing around, I decided that I was not happy so set about salvaging the situation. I lifted the former, cleaned this up as best as I could and removed some of the adhesive from the concrete.
I then contacted Wetdecs, who has been absolutely brilliant throughout. We discussed the situation and he advised me to lay a screed to give me sufficiant gap for the adhesive, using some spf. This seemed sensible as there was loads of spf on top of the concrete, and I could add to this.
Although trying to screed spf is rather like trying to screed treacle, it worked. Continually wetting my tools helped. As the spf started to cure I found that I could actually scrape it level with the back of a plastering trowel. I think I've now got it level to 1mm. Ideally I'd have liked a bigger gap for the adhesive but I'm basically happy.
I trial fitted the former into place and found that the gulley clicks into place without an issue. Also, I could release the gulley again and set the former to one side waiting for the screed to dry.
Come Monday fitting the former should be a relitively easy solution. I wish that plumber had stuck his head round the door an hour earlier, and that I had listened to my instincts.
OK so I've only wasted about half a day plus 2 bags of Profix fast setting flexable adhesive. BTW, BAL technical service is pants. 3 phone calls and only when the third is answered I am told that BAL Technical do not provide technical support for Profix, I have to phone the rep!
Things I have learned:
1) When doing something for the first time TAKE IT SLOWLEY!
2) Listen to your instincs. If there is a simpler but slower way to do something, especially if it's your first time, give it due consideration. Tell the customer he'll have to wait. This customer has eased off the pressure as I think he worked out it wasn't helping, so in no way did he contribute here.
3) Put Wetdecs phone number on speed dial
4) BAL Technical Support are pants when it comes to Profix. You buy the gear you are on your own.
5) Buy my next wetroom product from Wetdecs. Both price and service are excellent.
It was my own fault.:mad2:
First wetroom, decided to, sort of, combine two stages into one and got completely stuffed!:mad2:
I'm putting in a Tilux wetroom former (from Wetdecs). Now the wetroom former is thicker than the actual screed on top of the concrete floor. So I had to chisel out some of the concrete sub base. It actually came out quite well with a breaker, and I avoided having to take out the whole concrete slab.
Today I was faced with a former that was cut to size and fitted, the gulley and waste in the right position, a rough surface resembing the Alps in concrete to go on top of, oh, and more bags of spf than was good for me:lol:
Then I had the brainwave - I told you that I had too much tile adhesive.
I decided in my wisdom to screed and lay in a day. I can hear you all now (NOOOOOOOOOO!).
Just after I had started the plumber, who I had got chatting to poked his head around the corner and offered his advice to the effect that he finds it easier to do it in two stages. I agreed, but I was already too committed, now mixing my 2nd bag of adhesive - yes alarm bells were ringing in my head too :lol:
After a couple of attempts I actually got the thing level, square and solid - didn't move at all. Great, I thought, now for the gulley...................
Well, that's where it all kind of went.......Pete Tonge.
Try as I might I couldn't get the waste to slide in. I had to lift the former, which was not easy as it was so well bedded down. I found that some adhesive had got onto the flange and was stopping the waste from clicking home, this shouldn't have been a surprise really as there was two bags worth sloshing around :rofl:
It was obvious that the adhesive was beginning to set, as some of it was mixed quite a while ago and my window of opportunity was now closing fast.
After a bit more messing around, I decided that I was not happy so set about salvaging the situation. I lifted the former, cleaned this up as best as I could and removed some of the adhesive from the concrete.
I then contacted Wetdecs, who has been absolutely brilliant throughout. We discussed the situation and he advised me to lay a screed to give me sufficiant gap for the adhesive, using some spf. This seemed sensible as there was loads of spf on top of the concrete, and I could add to this.
Although trying to screed spf is rather like trying to screed treacle, it worked. Continually wetting my tools helped. As the spf started to cure I found that I could actually scrape it level with the back of a plastering trowel. I think I've now got it level to 1mm. Ideally I'd have liked a bigger gap for the adhesive but I'm basically happy.
I trial fitted the former into place and found that the gulley clicks into place without an issue. Also, I could release the gulley again and set the former to one side waiting for the screed to dry.
Come Monday fitting the former should be a relitively easy solution. I wish that plumber had stuck his head round the door an hour earlier, and that I had listened to my instincts.
OK so I've only wasted about half a day plus 2 bags of Profix fast setting flexable adhesive. BTW, BAL technical service is pants. 3 phone calls and only when the third is answered I am told that BAL Technical do not provide technical support for Profix, I have to phone the rep!
Things I have learned:
1) When doing something for the first time TAKE IT SLOWLEY!
2) Listen to your instincs. If there is a simpler but slower way to do something, especially if it's your first time, give it due consideration. Tell the customer he'll have to wait. This customer has eased off the pressure as I think he worked out it wasn't helping, so in no way did he contribute here.
3) Put Wetdecs phone number on speed dial
4) BAL Technical Support are pants when it comes to Profix. You buy the gear you are on your own.
5) Buy my next wetroom product from Wetdecs. Both price and service are excellent.
