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[Rich]

You dont want to be building out more than 3mm with a tubbed adhesive and the council will not supply you with powder. It is a hard one to call as its all well and good saying "dont do it" and "walk away" but you have bills to pay and the council pay. I think you should do the best possible job you can with what you have, no offense but I dont think it will be long before the council start giving the work to someone else, this is how they work, as soon as they find someone cheaper, your gone.

So, keep that in mind and try to work it to your advantage, start looking at a long course and putting the feelers out for tilers that will take you on after and in the meantime, practice and spend as much time as you can on this forum swatting up. From there, follow Timeless johns advice.

Tiling is a trade that everybody thinks they can do but nobody bothers to do it right. Dont be another monkey, get stuck in and do it properly.

Best of luck with it.

 

[Stef]

I couldnt agree more with Rich, he is spot on with what he says.

I have been there, done it & i am now in a position where i can pick & choose jobs & give work away.
It was a long road to get where i am now & a lot of hard graft but i got there with a good bit of luck also.

If i were you i would make sure i would be at TJ's door for 8 bells as you wont get a lot of offers like this one, especially with the knowledge & experience he could give you.

Good luck & try & keep going, you are in a steep learning curve.

 

[Mike]

Sometimes you don't get the time for the prep ( never mind the money) as around here on the council refurbs they want a bathroom and kitchen tiled and grouted the same day. If you don't like it some other mug will do it.

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[John Benton]

I was just asked to do a shower room. It needed ripping out, prepping, re-tiling and grouting and the customer said I could do it in a day. Needless to say I said if you can get someone to do that in a day, go for it, but remember my number as you will need it in say a month or so.

 

[Mike]

I was just asked to do a shower room. It needed ripping out, prepping, re-tiling and grouting and the customer said I could do it in a day. Needless to say I said if you can get someone to do that in a day, go for it, but remember my number as you will need it in say a month or so.

it annoys me when people tell me how long the job will take me, mainly builders. i then tell them how long and how much it will cost and if it's too much they can go elsewhere. i hate builders :mad2:

 

[Ian]

it annoys me when people tell me how long the job will take me, mainly builders. i then tell them how long and how much it will cost and if it's too much they can go elsewhere. i hate builders :mad2:

You might get on really well with another guy on here, Rich is his name :lol:

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

I feel sad when reading these posts, it seems we see more and more. As TJ says, three months is not the way you learn a trade, ( and tiling is a trade). Three years is the current criteria, used to be five/ six years. We as a skilled workforce should make a stand, and say with one voice "we have had enough"!!!.

Courses provide a basic introduction to to the art of tiling, nothing more, as any trade, tiling takes many years to master, and to become a true master craftsman takes a lifetime, we can't compete with the diluted skills of these wannabe tilers, sorry if my personal views upset anyone but, I am passionate about my trade.

I hope I have not blown my TF membership, I may have voiced my opinion once to often.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

We have had enough!

 

[Stef]

Well said Phil, every other day we see new members on here that have done a 3/5 day tiling course & think they can call themselves professional tradesmen

I dont think its their fault as you see the adverts in the paper, become a tiler in 5 days & make £40k.

Our trade is getting diluted by some very poor tilers but how can we make a stand?

I knew i wanted to be a tiler, I never came through a course, i worked on site for 2 1/2 years as a tilers labourer, but i came from a building background, i worked as a joiner & I was also a bricklayer, i never went back to do my last year as an apprentice brickie.

The one good thing though will be when the public start to realise that this tiling lark is a very skilled trade & when waters pouring through ceilings etc then they might phone tilers like ourselves to do the job properly.

 

[leftylewis1987]

i agree with you phil. i have always loved the finish of a good tiled room its just i have never been in the position to spend thousands of ounds of top tools and courses. the 1 thing i want to achieve from tiling is to get the job done perfect. i have only made 1 post on here and i have learned a great deal already so just want to say thank you for everyones opinions.

 

[jay]

But the question is what is your next move,do you persist trying to produce good quality work with no allowance for prep work or do you just soldier on and hope you get away with it,Once you lower your standard to meet demand it takes a lot to bring it back up and by then the damage is done (your name is mud)
So a question to you what have you decided to do about your problem.



And Phil i know i am not over there but We have had enough!

 

[Rich]

Iv had a enough!!! But who do we make this stand to? Who will listen and who will/can do anything about it? Thats a serious question. The problem isnt the support from the tilers, its that there seems to be nothing we can do about it?

Robson, I have to disagree, I really dont think that the public will ever realise.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Just to make it clear, I'm not having a pop at courses, or the people who go on them. I think the Government should have put more funding into apprenticeship schemes for small businesses, years ago. I think trade associations should push this more. I am aware of the grants that are available, to little, to late imo.

This problem is not unique to tiling, it is happening in all trades. Rant over.:incazzato:

 

[Rich]

No I dont think anybody is having a pop at courses or even the people that go on them. I think we are all just frustrated at the standard of some of the work that is being passed off out there.