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doit4u

Was advised by local trading standards last week that new regs came into place on 1 October. Full title 'The cancellation of contracts made in the customers home or place of work regulations 2008'.

The replace the old 'cold calling' regs and mean that any work or service agreed to in a customers home/workplace is subject to a 7 day cooling off period, even if they requested you to come and give a price.

This legislation seems to have crept in without many people knowing about it - yet more paperwork, but its got to be done.

Basically on any job worth more than £35 you must give the customer written notice of their cancellation rights or else get them to sign a waver for the work to start in less than 7 calender days. This even applies if you get an emergency call say for a leak/fault that can't be left unfixed

If you don't give them the notice there is a potential fine of up to £5000 and it is classed as a criminal offence.

You need to do this to also protect yourself as if you start work within the 7 days without a waiver a crafty customer would be within their rights to refuse to pay.

If it helps I have attached a copy of the notice I have prepared based on the trading standards guidelines I recieved.
 
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bigandy

Was advised by local trading standards last week that new regs came into place on 1 October. Full title 'The cancellation of contracts made in the customers home or place of work regulations 2008'.

The replace the old 'cold calling' regs and mean that any work or service agreed to in a customers home/workplace is subject to a 7 day cooling off period, even if they requested you to come and give a price.

This legislation seems to have crept in without many people knowing about it - yet more paperwork, but its got to be done.

Basically on any job worth more than £35 you must give the customer written notice of their cancellation rights or else get them to sign a waver for the work to start in less than 7 calender days. This even applies if you get an emergency call say for a leak/fault that can't be left unfixed

If you don't give them the notice there is a potential fine of up to £5000 and it is classed as a criminal offence.

You need to do this to also protect yourself as if you start work within the 7 days without a waiver a crafty customer would be within their rights to refuse to pay.

If it helps I have attached a copy of the notice I have prepared based on the trading standards guidelines I recieved.


where do i get the attachment from?help
 
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DHTiling

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DHTiling

Ok..just found out it is verbal agreements as well.......





Q1. Which types of business will be affected by the Regulations?
All traders who enter into a contract with the consumer (whether written or verbal) in the consumer’s home; place of work; the home of another individual; or an excursion organised by the trader away from the trader’s business premises are likely to be affected.
These include traders that provide:
• Home improvement, repair and maintenance services (including the construction of extensions, conservatories, driveways, patios and the supply and/or fitting of double glazing);
• Gardening services;
• Personal items (including cosmetics, toiletries, jewellery & clothes);
• Household items (kitchenware, decorative and household cleaning items);
• Family items (including books & leisure items);
• Nutrition and health products;
• Energy Suppliers;
• Mobility products (including stair lifts, scooters and buggies);
• Disability aids (including hearing aids)
The Regulations will also apply to businesses in other sectors.
There are exceptions. The new Regulations do not apply to the list of ‘Excepted Contracts’ included in Schedule 3 of the Regulations and to contracts made during solicited visits relating to regulated consumer credit agreements and regulated mortgages, home purchase plans etc.
Q2. What are the main requirements on business?
• The trader must give the consumer a right to cancel a contract to which the Regulations apply;
• The trader must give the consumer a cooling-off period of at least seven calendar days in which to exercise the right to cancel the contract starting from the date of receipt of the notice of the right to cancel;
• The trader must give the consumer written notice of his right to cancel the contract (whether the contract is a written contract or an verbal contract);
• The ‘Notice of the Right to Cancel’ must be given at the same time the contract is made;
• Where the contract is wholly or partly in writing, the ‘Notice of the Right to Cancel’ must be incorporated in the same document;
• If incorporated in the written contract (or other document) the notice must be set out in a separate box with the heading “Notice of the Right to Cancel”, and be as prominent as any other information in the contract or document (apart from the heading and the names of the parties to the contract and any other information inserted in handwriting);
• The ‘Notice of the Right to Cancel’ must contain the information set out in the Regulations (see Q3) and a cancellation form (see Q4) provided as a detachable slip (for use by the consumer if he wishes to cancel the contract);
• For ‘specified’ contracts listed in Regulation 9 (see Q6), the trader must include, in the ‘Notice of the Right to Cancel’, information that the consumer may be required to pay for goods or services received before the end of the cancellation period; and
• Where applicable, the trader must include information that a related credit agreement will be automatically cancelled if the contract for goods or services is cancelled.
Q3. What information must be included in the ‘Notice of the Right to Cancel’?
If incorporated in the written contract (or other document) the notice must be set out in a separate box with the heading “Notice of the Right to Cancel”, and have as much prominence as any other information in the contract or document (apart from the heading and the names of the parties to the contract and any other information inserted in handwriting).

Whether the contract is a written contract or a verbal contract, the written ‘Notice of the Right to Cancel’ must:
• be dated;
• indicate the right of the consumer to cancel the contract within the cancellation period;
• be easily legible;
• contain the identity of the trader including trading name if any;
• contain the trader’s reference number, code or other details to enable the contract or offer to be identified;
• contain a statement that the consumer has a right to cancel the contract if he wishes and that this right can be exercised by delivering, or sending (including by electronic mail) to the person mentioned at any time within the period of 7 days starting with the date of receipt of the notice of the right to cancel the contract;
• contain the name and address, (including any electronic email address as well as the postal address), of a person to whom a cancellation notice may be given;
• contain a statement that notice of cancellation is deemed to be served as soon as it is posted or sent to a trader or in the case of electronic communication from the day it is sent to the trader;
• indicate – if applicable – that the consumer may be required to pay for goods and services supplied if performance of the contract has begun with his written agreement before the end of the cancellation period;
• indicate – if applicable – that a related credit agreement will automatically be cancelled if the contract for goods and services is cancelled;
• contain a statement that the consumer can use the cancellation form provided only if he wishes;
• contain a cancellation form (for use by the consumer to cancel the contract) provided as a detachable slip and completed by or on behalf of the trader in accordance with the notes in the Regulations.
 
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DHTiling

Q4. How should the ‘Cancellation Form’ be set out?
The cancellation form (for use by the consumer (if he so wishes) to cancel the contract) should be set out in the form below (and capitalised where indicated):
‘If you wish to cancel the contract you MUST DO SO IN WRITING and deliver personally or send (which may be by electronic mail) this to the person named below. You may use this form if you want to but you do not have to.
(Complete, detach and return this form ONLY IF YOU WISH TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT.)
To: _________________ [trader to insert name and address of person to whom notice may be given.]
I/We (delete as appropriate) hereby give notice that I/We (delete as appropriate) wish to cancel my/our (delete as appropriate) contract _________
[Trader to insert reference number, code or other details to enable the contract or offer to be identified]. He may also insert the name and address of the consumer.]
Signed
Name and Address
Date
Q5. How will businesses be protected against non payment for goods or services provided before the end of the cooling off period?
A consumer who has acquired possession of any goods or received any services by virtue of a contract specified in Regulation 9 (see Q6) will be required to pay in accordance with the ‘reasonable’ requirements of the cancelled contract for goods or services provided up to the point of cancellation provided that:
• the trader included in the ‘notice of the right to cancel’ a statement that the consumer may be required to pay for the goods or services supplied if performance of the contract has begun before the end of the cooling-off period; and
• the consumer provided the trader with a written request for performance of the contract to begin before the end of the cooling off period.
A consumer who has acquired possession of goods by virtue of a contract - not specified in Regulation 9 shall – on cancellation of the contract – be under a duty to restore those goods to the trader and meanwhile to retain possession of the goods and to take reasonable care of them.
Q6. What are the types of ‘specified’ contract listed in Regulation 9?
The types of ‘specified’ contract listed in Regulation 9 are those contracts for:
• the supply of goods to meet an emergency;
• the supply of goods or services relating to a funeral;
• the supply of services of any other kind;
• the supply of goods made to a customer’s specifications or clearly personalised;
• the supply of goods, which by their nature are consumed and before the cancellation, were so consumed;
• the supply of goods which, before the cancellation, had become incorporated in any land or thing not comprised in the cancelled contract;
• the supply of perishable goods;
• the supply of newspapers, periodicals or magazines;
• advertising in any medium; and
• the supply of goods the price of which is dependent on fluctuations in the financial market which cannot be controlled by the trader
Q7. What happens if the consumer fails to provide written agreement for a specified contract (listed in Regulation 9) to begin before the end of the cooling off period?
In the event that a consumer did not provide written agreement for performance of a specified contract listed in Regulation 9 (see Q6) to begin before the end of the cooling-off period then the trader would not be under any obligation to begin performance before the end of the cooling-off period.
However, in the event that a trader began performance of a specified contract (listed in Regulation 9) before the end of the cooling-off period, and the consumer had not provided his written agreement for performance of the specified contract to begin before the end of the cooling-off period, the consumer would be able to cancel the contract and would not be under any obligation to pay for goods and services provided up to the point of cancellation.
In these circumstances the trader would be commencing performance of the contract at his own risk (i.e. the risk of non payment). The onus would be on the trader to ensure that he had the written permission of the consumer before commencing work.

Q8. Is the consumer required to provide written agreement for performance of a contract not listed in Regulation 9 to begin before the end of the cooling off period?
No. There is no requirement under these Regulations for the consumer to provide written agreement to receive goods before the end of the cooling off period for the types of contract not ‘specified’ in Regulation 9.
For these types of contract the consumer retains his cancellation rights and would be under a duty to restore any goods acquired before cancellation to the trader and meanwhile to retain possession of the goods and to take reasonable care of them.
Q9. Are mortgages or other home purchase plans or credit agreements covered by these Regulations?
The current cancellation regime under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 provides consumers with effective protection in the consumer credit market where agreements are negotiated face to face and signed away from the creditor’s business premises. We believe that duplicating cancellation provisions for consumer credit agreements under these regulations as well as under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 would generate a series of technical problems and would also potentially confuse consumers and business.
These Regulations do not generally apply to cancellable agreements under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 or to solicited contracts for regulated consumer credit agreements under that Act.
These Regulations do not apply to mortgage, home purchase plans, or home revision plan regulated under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 - made as a result of a solicited visit by a trader
Q10. What happens when a contract which has a related credit agreement attached is cancelled?
Where any contract for goods and services is cancelled under the Regulations, any related credit agreement is automatically cancelled. If the agreement was a cancellable agreement under the Consumer Credit Act 1984 the consequences of cancellation would flow as under that Act. In the case of any other regulated credit agreement, payment made by a consumer in relation to the credit agreement must be reimbursed unless otherwise provided in the Regulations. The consumer must repay credit and interest received in accordance with the related credit agreement but the agreement otherwise ceases to be enforceable. Any security provided under the related credit agreement must be immediately returned to the consumer.
Q11. What do you, as a trader, have to do when a contract which has a related credit agreement is cancelled?
A cancellation notice which cancels a contract for goods and services shall have the effect of cancelling any related credit agreement. The trader must (if he is not the same person as the creditor under that agreement) immediately on receipt of the cancellation notice inform the creditor that the notice has been given. The trader or creditor must take the appropriate steps to recover payment of credit and interest from the consumer if the whole of the credit repayable by instalments is not repaid before the date on which the first instalment is due.
Q12. What are the consequences for a trader who fails to comply with the Regulations?
Failure to provide a written ‘Notice of the Right to Cancel’ a contract - or to provide the information required - or failure to do so in accordance with the Regulations - would result in the trader being unable to enforce the contract against a consumer.
 
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theyomper

Having had a quick look at the Exceptions......does tiling not come under this Clause 1 (c).........................
SCHEDULE 3 Excepted contracts

1. A contract for the construction, sale or rental of immovable property or a contract concerning other rights relating to immovable property other than—
(a) a contract for the construction of extensions, patios, conservatories or driveways;
(b) a contract for the supply of goods and their incorporation in immovable property; and
(c) a contract for the repair, refurbishment or improvement of immovable property.
2. A contract for the supply of foodstuffs or beverages or other goods intended for current consumption in the household and supplied by a regular roundsman.
3. A contract for the supply of goods or services provided that each of the following conditions is met:
(a) the contract is concluded on the basis of a trader’s catalogue which the consumer has a proper opportunity of reading in the absence of the trader’s representative;
(b) there is intended to be continuity of contact between the trader’s representative and the consumer in relation to that or any subsequent transaction; and
(c) both the catalogue and the contract contain a prominent notice informing the consumer of his rights to return goods to the supplier within a period of not less than seven days of receipt or otherwise to cancel the contract within that period without obligation of any kind other than to take reasonable care of the goods.
4. A contract of insurance.
5. Any contract under which credit within the meaning of the 1974 Act is provided not exceeding £35 other than a hire purchase or conditional sale agreement.
6. Any contract not falling within paragraph 5 under which the total payments to be made by the consumer do not exceed £35.
7. Any agreement the making or performance of which by either party constitutes a relevant regulated activity.
8.—(1) For the purposes of paragraph 7—
(a) “a relevant regulated activity” means an activity of the following kind—
(i) dealing in investments, as principal or as agent;
(ii) arranging deals in investments;
(iii) operating a multilateral trading facility;
(iv) managing investments;
(v) safeguarding and administering investments;
(vi) establishing, operating or winding up a collective investment scheme; and
(b) for these purposes “investment” means—
(i) shares;
(ii) instruments creating or acknowledging indebtedness;
(iii) instruments giving entitlement to investments
(iv) certificates representing securities;
(v) units in a collective investment scheme;
(vi) options;
(vii) futures;
(viii) contracts for differences; and
(ix) rights to or interests in investments.
(2) Paragraph 7 and this paragraph must be read with—
(a) section 22 of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000;
(b) any relevant order under that section; and
(c) Schedule 2 to that Act,
but any restriction on or exclusion from the meaning of a regulated activity for the purposes of paragraph 7 which arises from the identity of the person carrying on such activity is to be disregarded.

My personal thougts are that we as tilers come under this..
 
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doit4u

Seem to have stirred up a bit of a hornet's nest with this one. The local trading standards said they had to scratch their heads a bit to understand what it all meant and produced a summary for the members of their Registered Traders Scheme. In my original post I tried to explain it as briefly as possible. To clarify some of the queries raised:

  • It applies to all "contracts" both written and verbal between you and the customer made in their home/place of work however the initial contact was made i.e not just cold calling.
  • THEYOMPER. I haven't read the full legislation but I think the Excepted Contracts info you have listed confirms that the type of work we do is not excluded.
For the sake of giving people a one page sheet and filling in a few detials I am not going to take the chance.

I have had one instance {nothing to do with these regs but there are some sneeky customers out there} of a customer knocking off part of the bill because he claimed I hadn't completed the work satisfactorily and he had to go over it. I didn't bother to argue for the sake of £100 just told him to pay the rest as I felt it would just drag on and I would have to wait ages to get any money, so he was a bit stuck when I accepted his reduction and had to pay straight away.

It was one of those jobs where I was called in late to get it done before visitors were arriving and I just had the feeling whatever I did they wouldn't be happy. I didn't get chance to price the job and said I would therefore only work on an hourly rate and half way through they said they were concerned about the bill as they had budgetted £500 for the work and I was going to go over that so I think they were just looking for an excuse to knock something off the final bill.

Hope the above helps.

Thought I had attached my cancellation form successfully to original post but obviously not. Can't find a way to attach to this reply so have copied it in.


THE CANCELLATION OF CONTRACTS MADE IN A CUSTOMER’S HOME
OR PLACE OF WORK REGULATIONS 2008
Effective from 1 October 2008 for work over £35

Cancellation Form/Authorisation to start works within 7 day cooling-off period.

You have 7 calendar days in which to cancel this contract starting from the date of receipt of this notice.

Cancellation.

If you wish to cancel the contract you must do so IN WRITING and deliver personally or send {which may be by electronic mail} this to the person named below. You may use the form at the bottom of this page if you want to but you do not have to.



Agreement to commence work/receive goods within the cooling-off period.

I ……………………………………………………..……………………….. agree to Do.It.4.U commencing the works as

per the agreement made on …………………………………….before the end of the statutory cancellation period.


Signed…………………………………………………………………………. Date …………………………………………..


Address ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………


Cancellation Notice. Complete and return this section of the form only if you wish to cancel the contract.

To: Do.It.4.U, 5 Bro Helyg, Rhydargaeau, Carmarthen, SA32 7DT, {[email protected]}

I/We* hereby give notice that I/we* wish to cancel my/our* contract for
………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………


Signed …………………………………………………………………………. Date …………………………………………..


Name & Address …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………


* delete as appropriate


 
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Grace'sDad

.How many tilers who measure a job.. write up a contract and get a customer to sign it..?...


Me. I do. I have two pages of terms and conditions and I require a signature before I book the work in. Now I'm also asking for deposits on larger jobs (more really to put them off cancelling or delaying)
 

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