Cant Be Much Of a Tiler Then !!!

[marke]

Cant be much of a tiler then,,,was the response i got from the 'builder', when i insisted i could not 5 SPOT his 600x400 Marble Tiles onto his un levelled floor :mad2: Didnt know whether to laugh or cry .:incazzato:

 

[merlecollins]

Didnt know whether to laugh or cry .

Do neither mate - just walk........

 

[doug boardley]

exactly Merle

 

[DHTiling]

Don't you just love them..if it was that easy then why wasn't he tiling it...Moron..:mad2:

 

[White Room]

Another muppet:incazzato:

 

[hillhead]

:ban: the builder time?lol

 

[peckers]

Course you can do it the builder says so :ban::incazzato:

 

[dagger]

some jobs you want, some you NEED,
some you should walk away from, and some you should advise on....this one is a bob and weave!!!! if you ask me!!!

 

[wivers]

They are all muppets mate, builders always say the same thing coz at the end of the day they know they have knacked the floor and it aint how its supposed to be.

Our job is so under rated imo other traders and customers both seem to thing its just a case of slapping a bit of addy on the back of a tile and away ya go.

The trouble is, when yer short of work what do u do...do u turn it down?

I aint saying 5 spot the floor, but now and again we must all find ourselfs in positions where we need to take the job on.

 

[marke]

Yeah i agree sometimes you just cant be too picky who you work with,, i dont mean standards slipping but you sometimes find yourself doing jobs you would probably turn down in busier times . Im not entertaining this idiot though as he also wants to supply all materials and i dont have much faith !! plus busy enough without

 

[sherbert]

its good your busy without his work i have had to walk away from a job when i was quiet because i did not like the way it was going to be ( shoddy work done so far and he was having a dispute with the customer over just about everything! i found this out from his labourer on the way out!) but it would have made me laugh at him and probably leave with a phrase like its one thing being a tiler its quite another to be a bodging cowboy like you (thats if he was not bigger than me!)

 

[turnip]

cant see what the problem is, you dont need to 5spot your tiles, please dont tell me that you notch stone! you say that you use a rubber mallett next to bang them down to level?
get yourself a some pourable white, Bal do one, or even nicobond white or granfix marble fix or equivalent, mix up the adhesive runny so that you can pour it, but not too stiff that you cant push the tiles down. find the highest point of the room, theres your setting out point or a reference point as to how much gear you'll need to build up with elsewhere. pour out your bucket of creamy adhesive, run your trowel thru it to make your hills and valleys, put a runny blob in each corner and one in the middle of where the stone will sit. put your stone in place, push down, the adhesive runs out of the sides,you should have a solid bed underneath with the corners fully supported, get it level.get a couple stones down with the required bed underneath, get them level. now you just have to work backwards checking the level, more or less adhesive needed, just pour more in, doesnt matter if the floor is unlevel, because your floor is. this technique overcomes the need for levelling and ensures a solid bed underneath (no corners breaking off). So,the builder dont want to pay for levelling, but he'll pay more in adhesive costs one way or the other whether the floor is spotted or not. tell him you'll pour your adhesive to get the floor level, allow 20kg for 2/3msq depending on how much out of level the floor is. then tell him the cost for levelling. up to him then. simples.

 

[Daveyboy]

I've just finished tiling a 30m2-ish kitchen/dining open plan room, which the builder said he had levelled. We checked the floor and using a site level we picked 20 different points in the room and everyone was a different level..Tiles were 600x300mm and I used 31 bags of topps flexy rapid set adhesive to get the tiles level from the high spot..I was laying approx 5 tiles per bag of adhesive..:mad2:.. he says he will get me to level his floor in future

 

[marke]

Cheers guys, i know what your sayin turnip thats the way i would go myself , i think its more his attitude i was gettin at , they seem to think sod it the tiler will sort it they just get right on my bits :mad2: you try and give good advise and all they want is rock bottom prices , some just not willing to pay to do stuff the right way.....but just another day mate plenty to be done out there

 

[marc1106]

Cheers guys, i know what your sayin turnip thats the way i would go myself , i think its more his attitude i was gettin at , they seem to think sod it the tiler will sort it they just get right on my bits :mad2: you try and give good advise and all they want is rock bottom prices , some just not willing to pay to do stuff the right way.....but just another day mate plenty to be done out there

Sorry to upset you Marke, but that the industry! any decorator will tell you "we make the plasterers and chippys look good".
Its that attitude that made me go it alone, and all of the subbies i use have been educated to think of the following trades. it took some time but now when we're doing a big project it does help it run smoother! builders in general are first fixers they ARE going to leave the finishing touches to the FINISHING TRADES which tiling is!