cant compete

[Stewart]

I'm just glad there's no idiots like that around here....

 

[nybor62]

it seems to be getting more common lately andy, ive noticed a large increase of tilers in my area,
which i dont mind that much , but if thats the prices they are going in at , what chance have i got

 

[johnryan]

it'd be interesting if you could get some pics of their work, when they finish. don't see how they can do it for that much.

 

[Andy Allen]

i just did a bit of working out and you will be pushed to make £100 a day on those prices, and thats grafting hard as well.........stuff that.

 

[Scott]

Wouldnt it be funny though if that was their price for the ditra or it was a typo and it should have been £16.50

 

[andy8758]

I can understand everyone feeling miffed at low quotes. However, some business(wo)men work out the budget for the year, predicting all costs, then looking to what the work demand profile is likely to be during the year. If you employ 4 tilers at £10/hour then you pay that come rain or shine - if you know Jan-March has few jobs, then a job at £6.50 per sq m pays more than not doing the job. As the year progresses and more work around, they up their prices and recover their losses from earlier in the year.

Shops do this a lot - sell off stock very cheap during lean times to encourage any purchase, but bump the prices up when demand rises.

 

[nybor62]

i dont know any tilers who would work for 10.00 /hour .i deffo wont,

so you would be willing to work for 6.50 a m2 if you had nothing else on, ?

 

[andy8758]

i dont know any tilers who would work for 10.00 /hour .i deffo wont,

so you would be willing to work for 6.50 a m2 if you had nothing else on, ?

Lol - £10 per hour - my wife and I are currently paying ourselves £5 an hour from the business. Of course our children have left home, and we have very few commitments, and some savings - but we only pay ourselves what the company can afford. If you can afford to pay yourself more than £10 an hour then I think you are doing better than me at the moment!

I will not do tiling work for £6.50/sq m because I would lose too much money on the job, but I know tilers who would. My sister-in-law had her bathroom floor re-tiled for £120. That included removing bathroom cupboard units, bath panel, toilet, existing tiles, re-tiling 3 sq m with granite composite, grout silicone and replacing toilet, cupboards and bath panel. She only supplied the tiles. Now you can see what we are up against locally.

 

[johnryan]

even if i was hard up for work, i wouldn't take a job like that at that price. you'd be pushing yourself too hard every day to get your meterage up enough to make money, over a long period. if you got others in to help, would they cover their wages? also, if you've committed to it, you may end up losing other better paid work while you're on that job. that's a very low price, and i'm thinking somethings not right about it. are they just opening negotiations with you to try to get you drop your price a bit, or have they actually given the job to them? i priced a kitchen floor with 600x600, and i went in at 18m2 which i thought was very low as i wanted the job for other reasons, but would normally charge 26m2 for those types of tiles. just my thoughts anyway. it just seems very strange having a price that low. hard to believe.

 

[nybor62]

they have other tilers to do it for 6.50. no negotiating with me what so ever

 

[johnryan]

wow :yikes: that's scary. hope that's a one off as opposed to the way things are going. might as well go and stack shelves at tesco for that sort of money.

 

[garretridge]

dont worry mate move on there are people willing to work for peanuts hope they mess it up i also did a quote last week 27mts 600x 600 polished porcelain kitchen floor supply adhesive and grout and 3 door trims priced it at £650 someone quoted £390 all in madness good luck to them it worked out around £8 a mtr after materials!:mad2:

 

[nybor62]

shocking pal would luv to see that job when its done

 

[andy8758]

dont worry mate move on there are people willing to work for peanuts hope they mess it up i also did a quote last week 27mts 600x 600 polished porcelain kitchen floor supply adhesive and grout and 3 door trims priced it at £650 someone quoted £390 all in madness good luck to them it worked out around £8 a mtr after materials!:mad2:

Shop around for materials - I reckon I could keep the material costs to £100, then rate is £10.74 psm. Still very low, but 2 12 hour days should see most of the work done. Thats a day rate of about £145. Guess we gotta be prepared to work longer days for no more pay!

 

[Andy Allen]

i would sooner work a few days a week for decent money than work my nuts off for a pittens.