Concrete floor problem

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Ok Alan i have received more info.
"hi neale. the link below explains it. basically i have no recourse, the mortgage lender's surveyor said floor had to be tested, and at ten to five on friday i was told there's high level of sulphates. at some point there's been an 'injected' damp proof course done cos there's loads of them little holes in the walls, but i very much doubt that will be enough... depends what the 'expert' puts in his report. (the 'expert' will be thinking he'll get the job i suppose)"

And this is the link to the company

Blythe Building Consultants Ltd
 
Just seen this...

This is a common test for houses built before a certain time and it is part of the HIP's test i think neale.

So all surveyors will request it done... They need a floor test certificate for them to sell..no way out of it..
 
I understand it a common test but they have been told that the whole floor has to come up at the cost of floor and new kitchen and WC.... this all came within a few hours of signing the papers. I was just wondering if some form of epoxy coating could be used.
I guess at the end of teh day its not "My" problem and the house is shared ownership so i guess she will only have to pay half...just dont like to see good honest people get stuffed ! ok rant over.
 
They normally say it has to be replaced because the floors can Heave as well....

Annoying i know but that is the way it has been for a while now.

As a young lad we had to move house for a couple months whilst floors were replaced to due to sub-base infill used..

Quite a few houses down the older part of the town are governed by these strict floor tests..
 
You would have thought that it would be covered by house insurance but no doubt it wont :mad2:
 
FINAL REPORT OF WATER SOLUBLE SULPHATE INSPECTION AT , SUTTON COLDFIELD, BIRMINGHAM.

Observations:
The lounge floor was of suspended timber construction, the kitchen floor was of solid concrete construction. There was some unevenness noted to the kitchen floor surface. The kitchen floor appeared to comprise a weak 60mm layer of sand lime type concrete with a stronger 60mm layer of traditional concrete on top. The quality of the sand lime type concrete at the interface with the sub-floor infill was poor. There was no lateral slippage to the external brickwork at damp proof course level and no sulphate staining internally or externally.

Analysis:
Water soluble sulphate tests have been carried out on an infill sample recovered from beneath the kitchen floor slab of the property detailed above. Sampling was in accordance with the recent guidance issued by The Department of Communities and Local Government (February 2008). The infill sample appeared to be composed of blast furnace ash aggregate, a material which has been associated with sulphate attack of concrete in the past. The infill sample had a high water soluble sulphate content of 2.66g/l and a moisture content of 19.2% (Summary of Test Results attached). This sulphate content value corresponds with a grading of Class 3 as defined in Table C2 of BRE Special Digest 1:2005. According to the BRE Special Digest a concrete floor slab should be stable when placed in contact with a Class 3 infill provided that the concrete satisfies certain minimum depth (140mm) and cement quality requirements and the infill is dry. The concrete at the sampling point was less than this thickness, the cement quality to the lower layer was not as recommended and the infill had a high moisture content. There was no visqueen membrane beneath the concrete floor slab.

Recommendations:
Based on the recommendations of the BRE Special Digest and our previous experience of sulphate affected concrete it is considered that there is a medium risk that sulphate attack could affect the solid kitchen floor of the property in the future. At the moment the kitchen floor is showing some evidence of possible sulphate attack and this is in combination with the sulphate content and moisture content of the infill being high. We would recommend that repairs to the kitchen floor slab are considered to ensure the long term durability of the structure.

W. Templeton
W. Templeton B.Sc. (Hons), P.I. Insured
 
Ahhh!. Now I see why the concern. Class 3 is a fairly aggressive sulphate condition and would require a specially deigned concrete (usually higher cement content and lower water cement ratio). No DPM over the lime screed means the concrete is also subject to mobile ground water (rising damp) hence the high moisture content. Unfortunately a simple Epoxy would simply hide the problem.

always nice to learn something new.
 
Cheers Alan, not a nice thing to happen to her this late in the sale but i guess its life.
I will pass the bad news on.
 

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