Dodgy wall questions

[The Handy Manny]

Ah sorry misread your original post. Strip back to stud and then line with new plasterboard. That makes more sense now. What would you suggest priming the board with? SBR?

 

[doug boardley]

To line the walls. Not WBP?

no mate, use hardiebacker 500 or 12.5mm plasterboard. If necessary place noggins at strategic points in the stud wall to carry weight of fixtures/fittings

 

[doug boardley]

Ah sorry misread your original post. Strip back to stud and then line with new plasterboard. That makes more sense now. What would you suggest priming the board with? SBR?

depends on the adhesive you use, but sbr (diluted) will cover for most adhesives. No need to prime if you use hardiebacker tho' (just tape the joints)

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

From what I'v heard and seen,a lot of the ply (so called exterior, resin bonded ) is rubbish anyway. As Doug says, what is it for? Deffo lose the tubbed stuff

 

[The Handy Manny]

Right. Spoken to customer and I think she'll go for lining. Think she understands that anything else is daft however cheap she wants to be. Whilst I am quite happy to 'donate' as much time as is needed for a good job, at the moment donating materials is not much of an option

So from what you good people have advised and what I've seen elsewhere my current intention is to break walls down to studs and re-line with standard 12.5 plaster board (can't get the money for backer board and it's not that readily available locally) prime and tile merrily away Hopefully find some proper adhesive and grout at one of the local merchants too.

Thanks all

 

[The Handy Manny]

Thanks for all the advice folks. Has been a long day but got a lot done. Walls were back to plaster at end of yesterday so today removed said plaster and boarded out. All new to me today but fairly pleased with the result so far:

Thanks again

 

[Deleted member 9966]

Manny, were you able to find the Buildfix products in B&Q yet?

 

[The Handy Manny]

In theory yes, i.e. the website let me reserve them at the one on the other side of town, and no, they rang and said there were all out of stock. The one round the corner had none. At least they rang so for now I've got powdered unibond tile on floors adhesive and grout from Homebase as today took far too long and I'll sort something out for the walls. Not perfect but a start.
I'd forgotten how shoddy this age of house was. Once the wall was stripped there was all of 1 1/2" studs at 600mm centres, so added to them and did as best I could with the board. Was challenging getting the two layers of board of without landing in the next room. The board you can see with the egg box on is the back of the next room!

Thanks for your help

 

[The Handy Manny]

So here's the finished article. Job didn't finish well as fell out with the customer when she refused to pay. However I learnt lots and think she got a great bathroom for a very low budget.

 

[Deleted member 9966]

why did she refuse to pay Manny? Did you get your money?

 

[The Handy Manny]

Because of some of the finish I did to area's I hadn't quoted for, and did with my own materials, as she was going to do them but didn't bother. Also minor snagging which I would have done if she hadn't been quite so rude and threatening. As it was I very much got the impression she never intended to pay what was agreed. Seemed to think that £400 got you a £5k job and blamed me for faults with materials she supplied.
In the end I got most of it in cash (after offering to remove goods to the value of etc) and some more in a cheque with her guarantee card details on the back so hopefully that won't bounce! Seems that this is how she treats all trades and never uses the same person twice, I assume cos they won't come back.

 

[Deleted member 9966]

Because of some of the finish I did to area's I hadn't quoted for, and did with my own materials, as she was going to do them but didn't bother. Also minor snagging which I would have done if she hadn't been quite so rude and threatening. As it was I very much got the impression she never intended to pay what was agreed. Seemed to think that £400 got you a £5k job and blamed me for faults with materials she supplied.
In the end I got most of it in cash (after offering to remove goods to the value of etc) and some more in a cheque with her guarantee card details on the back so hopefully that won't bounce! Seems that this is how she treats all trades and never uses the same person twice, I assume cos they won't come back.

well if you don't get paid what you are owed, offer to do the snagging in return for full and final payment. if she still refuses to pay, take her to small claims court my good man. there's too many of these types of people popping up now, taking good, decent, hardworking tradesmen for a ride.

bad customers and cowboy tradesmen are just ruining it for everybody else :mad2:

 

[The Handy Manny]

Thanks for that. I already lost a bit to get anything out of her so won't be going back but I will take her to small claims if the cheque bounces!
Way I look at is there were some items needing a little work which she would have got done if she'd been reasonable and polite. However for the money (and I didn't try and charge for the extra days work due to state of walls and changes of mind) she got a really nice looking bathroom, especially considering the bargain basement materials she supplied (note to all customers buy a bath panel that fits the bath you've bought and is the same length as it). No doubt if she employed a time served plumber, plasterer, spark and tiler she would have got a better job but as she said when she first rang me she wanted the job 'cheap as'!
Any hoo she's already on Rated People looking for some one else to scam.

 

[Deleted member 9966]

Onwards and upwards Manny. don't let this bad egg taint your tiling career

 

[The Handy Manny]

Cheers, i won't. Learnt lots for next time but was also the best I've done :hurray: