Dot n' Dab Disaster

[Taz8130]

Started a new job this week. Half tile new bathroom in extension, re-floor 2nd bathroom and remove & replace damaged tiles and broken grout in en-suite, which originally looked like minor water damage behind tiles due to breaks in the grout.

Monday started with removing emulsion on plaster in new bathroom :mad2:

Once that was done - 2 coats of Bal primer. While 2nd coat was drying, decided to take a tile off in en-suite. What a bloody disaster. Customer had had it fitted 12 months ago by some old guy who she said was, at the time partially-retired. After seeing the mess behind the first tile, I can only imagine he's also partially sighted.

He had took the old tiles off but left the old adhesive behind. then PVA'd it all then stuck the new tiles on using Dot & Dab tubbed addy.

Just in case you think that bits of paper stuck to the Dot & Dab on the back of the tile in the pic that is actually the PVA which is just peeling off.

This 4 day job just got a lot bigger. Going to finish the new bathroom off first, so will post more pics of this shambles when I get the rest of the tiles off..............stay tuned !!!

 

[DHTiling]

Lordy lordy just look at that abortion.........and yes the old PVA and we still get peeps asking why or i have used pva for yrs with no probs.....they have no probs coz they have never been called back....

thanks for the photos and look forward to updates...

 

[bigandy]

Good luck there pal. For me i would be showing them exactly what they got under them tiles. At least so they can think about ripping them off!!!

 

[GazTech]

Fantastic post Taz.....
Let that be a warning to all you customers. Have you asked your fixer to clarify which method of tiling he is to use on your Bathroom, and is he priming and with what. ????
Although primers, adhesives and grouts can be fit for purpose, this isn't always the case with the fixer.....

 

[wivers]

How hard did u need to pull the tile to get it off Taz?

 

[LM Ceramics]

tilers dot and dabbing is really starting to **** me off the local kitchen company i do work for said there last tiler dot and dabbed tiles as the walls were so bad supposidly i was in shock

 

[Taz8130]

How hard did u need to pull the tile to get it off Taz?

Only thing holding these tiles up is the grout. Addy just crumbles in your hand. Had to use Bosch multi-tool to remove grout (couldn't afford feinmaster). After that the tiles just fall away.

 

[brian c]

what a bloody mess!

 

[Gazzer]

Call that bad...Pah!
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[White Room]

The plaster is going to be soaked:huh2:

 

[CCTiling]

Nice job you've got yourself into Taz!! Good post mate, good to see pics. I can't believe there are peeps out who tile like this, obviously a jack of all!! I think most of the time the customers are looking for the cheaper of the quotes and end up getting so called tradesmen like this. The cost of using the correct materials for the job can be off putting for the customer in some cases but if explained they will see you having a very professional approach to the job. Good luck with the work mate

 

[Dave Ramsden]

sledge hammer :lol:

 

[Saltire69]

At least the tiles will come off easy enough Taz.

 

[Taz8130]

Evenng all - Latest update.

Finished tiling the new bathroom in the extension today so started on repair of en-suite.

In shower the left hand & right hand walls are plastered blockwork, absolutely soaking. On backwall it's plasterboard, well it used to be plasterboard. Bloody silverfish everywhere. This has now turned into an insurance claim.

Sorry no new pics as camera card was full and as my Mrs is Polish, she got it set up with Polish menu's so couldn't delete old pics to take new ones !!!

 

[Taz8130]

Finally sorted out camera so here are the pics..........

Finished New Bathroom,

But left holecutter at home so had to get the nipper on toilet waste. Not my best work.

Finally got to work on the en-suite. These pics are 24 hours after removing most of the tiles. On further inspection, damp has got through into bedroom and wrecked expensive built-in wardrobes. Alll due to bloody dot & dab !!