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MargolisMarmite

Hi Guys, I have removed the bath and want to add a walk in shower. I will use a shower tray something like
Plato de Ducha rectangular 150x80 | gala

At the moment there is no place to fir the shower tray too, so I need to bring the floor up. The plumbing I think I can change to fit the new drain, but I dont want to concrete in the plumbing, so I can get at it again in future.

Can anyone suggest a way to go? I was thinking of dropping some blocks or bricks in there and then cementing around them to make a platform, and then putting the shower tray onto that.. Or is that a bad idea, likely to cause wobble..

The squiggly line represents where i need to turn the pipes to reach the new shower tray drain...

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MargolisMarmite

Simon benn Leeds said:
Can I ask why youd want to get to the plumbing in the future?
Personally I'd concrete all the plumbing in.

You also have a perfect opportunity here to install a wet room rather than just a shower tray. ( obviously just my option)

Simon
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Hi Simon, perhaps its just me, but I dont see the attraction of a wetroom.. I dont want the whole room to get wet, just the bit where im having a shower :) Also, seems like a still need a tray former for a wetroom and then also need to do tanking. Expensive and a bit pointless for my needs.. Just want a nice hot shower :)

Regarding the plumbing, wanted to leave it accessible in case of problems or if I ever decided to do something else... I might change my mind one day :-/
 
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MargolisMarmite said:
Hi Simon, perhaps its just me, but I dont see the attraction of a wetroom.. I dont want the whole room to get wet, just the bit where im having a shower :) Also, seems like a still need a tray former for a wetroom and then also need to do tanking. Expensive and a bit pointless for my needs.. Just want a nice hot shower :)

Regarding the plumbing, wanted to leave it accessible in case of problems or if I ever decided to do something else... I might change my mind one day :-/
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The other problem is Ive never tiled before and have no idea how to make the base of the shower sloped and then to tile over a slope. Looks a bit complex for my first attempt. Using a proper base I dont have to worry about, then if I leave the underside accessible, I can have a wet room one day.. if it becomes the best way to sell the property..
 
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Simon benn Leeds

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Access to the pipe work is through the gully, also the connecting pipes are solvent welded so will "NEVER" leak (famous last words)
I'd always put a screen there anyway just to deflect the water.

But as @widler says perfectly fine on blocks as long as it's a cast resin tray and not plastic/ acrylic.

Not sure how you will ever access the pipe work in any situation though without taking the screen out, tiles off and tray out?.
 
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Simon benn Leeds

Sounds like you have some decision making to do!!...

Never install a tray after tiling no no no no..
Tray first then tile so the wall tile sits on the tray then silicone.

Buy an extra box of tiles so if you ever have to remove the tray you can remove the wall tile cuts to the tray, tray out new tray in re cut tiles job done!.

You have more chance of leaks and damage if your considering propping an acrylic tray on blocks after tiling.

Best way is choose your tray, set your waste accordingly, test it glue it, fill with sand and cement, fix the tray, tile it in, silicone. And enjoy:)
 
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MargolisMarmite

Ok, But question I have now is..

Do i board the wall around the tray (3 walls using green paper water resistant plasterboard - no cement board here in spain I can find) then i drop the board 2cm short of the floor (as is normally suggested to avoid water) then insert the tray and then tile down to the top of the tray?

Or do I leave the board short of the tray - which would in effect be around 6-7cm from the floor (5 tray depth + 2cm to avoid touching the tray) and tile down to the top of the tray.

In the second case the tray would be kind of sunken into the wall... But in the first case water going between tray and wall would end up on the plasterboard.. But I think option one will look the best.

I wanted to board the walls because they are so incredibly unlevel - maybe i should just plaster, or is it the same either way?

Gah !
 
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