First Attempt at Floor Tiling

[DHTiling]

If the vinyl adhesive was virtually unremovable , then you could have slurry coated and tiled it.

What you have done is megga wrong , if you have a leak , say from a washing machine then it will fail big time.

 

[andyb]

Ok - thanks for all the replies - I've lifted another tile and it seems that the adhesive is just not setting even though these tiles were laid last Thursday evening.

Looks like I'm going to have to start again 🙁

But at least the adhesive is coming away with a scraper so may be able to reuse the tiles?

 

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Andy
Start now, getting the tiles up and cleaned off. as time consuming as it might sound, get one up at a time and soak it in a bucket of water. you should be able to rub the adhesive off by using your fingers or perhaps a scraper. The minute you get a tile up and open the adhesive up to the air, the adhesive will start to set and become more difficult to remove. You might be lucky to be able to save the whole lot of tiles.

 

[The D]

put the adhesive back in the tub and take it back remove the ply and re-board with hardi backer

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Andy - this is one of those threads that just makes the tiling trade either laugh or weep with dispair!
All the advice regarding wood and tubbed adhesive is wrong from your suppliers and only by getting in a competent tiler will you get longevity from your floor.

 

[True Tiling]

As a tiler, I had a situation in my own home with regards to the sub-floor. If it's bitumen: it's not going to accept tiles. No adhesive manufacturer/levelling compound will take this floor on as it moves too much. Trust me - called them all! It's like a squishy ball of rubber that reacts to temperature in a huge way....tiling is no-go. I fitted solid oak flooring ;(

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

As a tiler, I had a situation in my own home with regards to the sub-floor. If it's bitumen: it's not going to accept tiles. No adhesive manufacturer/levelling compound will take this floor on as it moves too much. Trust me - called them all! It's like a squishy ball of rubber that reacts to temperature in a huge way....tiling is no-go. I fitted solid oak flooring ;(

So asphalt tile adhesive (ATA) can't be tiled on, wow you learn something every day. Or is it Bitumen that can't be tiled on? as a novice tiler I thought if you prepared the surface correctly ie slurry bond for ATA, or the right slc for Bitumen prior to tiling you would be good to go. Ply is a different animal imo. I have been doing everything wrong for 46yrs, thanks for putting me right.:smilewinkgrin:

 

[andyb]

Andy
Start now, getting the tiles up and cleaned off. as time consuming as it might sound, get one up at a time and soak it in a bucket of water. you should be able to rub the adhesive off by using your fingers or perhaps a scraper. The minute you get a tile up and open the adhesive up to the air, the adhesive will start to set and become more difficult to remove. You might be lucky to be able to save the whole lot of tiles.

Update: managed to recover ALL of the tiles laid so far so thanks for this advice.
Thsi is what it looks like at the mo:



Now the problem is how to get the hammer fixings out of the floor - they are well and truly stuck by the tile adhesive 🙁

I've worked out a possible method and that is to use a holesaw in a drill just slightly bigger than the fixing - this will at least allow me to lift the ply.



Hopefully, this will also allow enough purchase to use a claw lever to get the fixing out without the head breaking off.

[update] - fixings successfully pulled out 🙂

 

[andyb]

So asphalt tile adhesive (ATA) can't be tiled on, wow you learn something every day. Or is it Bitumen that can't be tiled on? as a novice tiler I thought if you prepared the surface correctly ie slurry bond for ATA, or the right slc for Bitumen prior to tiling you would be good to go. Ply is a different animal imo. I have been doing everything wrong for 46yrs, thanks for putting me right.:smilewinkgrin:

hmm - seems there's a difference of opinion brewing here... in my case it's some kind of bitumen based thermoplastic floortile adhesive. I'll carry on lifting the floor and then post a piccie or too when uncovered and hopefully folk can then tell me what to do next. (politely please...)

 

[DHTiling]

hmm - seems there's a difference of opinion brewing here... in my case it's some kind of bitumen based thermoplastic floortile adhesive. I'll carry on lifting the floor and then post a piccie or too when uncovered and hopefully folk can then tell me what to do next. (politely please...)

It's ok , the other guy is a troll and was just ripping into the thread.. the substrate can be tiled to if prepped right.