First Big tiling Job

[Cass Idy]

Hi, So as the title says this will be my first big tiling job, i have done odd tiling jobs with the occasional floor etc but nothing by myself, the problem i have is i really cut myself short when pricing up for jobs.
The job itself is a 3.7 x 3.7 meter so say 14Sqm kitchen in a chinese take away. The ovens etc are big and not easily moved out so my idea would be to do half the room then move the stuff over and do the other half. There is already tiles down but they are starting to come up. i am unsure of how good/rigid/level the ground is underneath so i am taking into account i may need to completely board it with 12mm Ply and then coat with PVA. failing that if the floorboards are not too great reboard with 18mm and get rid of the old floorboards. I have come up with these sums

Remove old tiles/ board floor/PVA ready for Tiling: Labour 1 day, 2 men ***, Materials ****(allowing a day as moving the ovens etc will be a pain in the ***)
Laying New tiles and grouting: Labour 2 days 2 men ****, Materials ****

So total of ****all material/labour cost

I was thinking of charging Per Msq but with the problems of moving around the ovens and stuff i would prefer to charge day rate

Does this sound about right? i am really sturggling with prices as i have not long gone solo

Thanks in advance guys

 

[White Room]

Hi and welcome....Don't use any Pva it will cause big problems.

 

[peteablard]

Sorry mate but prices can't be discussed in the open forum. Are you actually a tiler? For starters pva should never be used. Is it definitely floor boards underneath? If existing tiles are lifting then there may be some deflection in the floor causing this and that problem should be addressed first.

 

[kilty55]

hi cassidy,the ovens/ranges im assuming are gas and may be on flexi hoses to an extent for cleaning of the kitchen area but you cant just disconnect these hoses in a commercial environment have you looked into this part of it?

 

[Cass Idy]

Yes kilty my brother is a gas engineer and is sorting that problem for me. The place will actually be shut for 3 weeks when the work is being Done. Pete i was always told to use pva bonding to seal and help with the adhesive when tiling onto ply?? is this wrong now? The floor underneath is definitely floorboards as i just re boarded and skimmed the ceiling below =). and as for the deflection the tile in there now have been down for a very very long time and only 2 tiles are coming up at the entrance to the kitchen.

 

[White Room]

Use sbr or the adhesive companys primer....

 

[charlie1]

3 days work for one man considering you may need to move stuff arround but as kilty said, you may have a bit of an issue with that! My terms would be that they ensured floor was clear prior to work starting then you could do it in 2 days.

 

[afright]

SBR Always so no to PVA,also get someone qualified to remove and fit the cookers.

 

[acetiled]

Always stick to the manufacture recommendations of the particular products.
choose carefully. saving $50 on products which gets passed on anyway, could have fixing thousands of $$ worth of problems

 

[bugs183]

Hi Cass. This floor is going to take a huge amount of foot traffic so it needs to be done right.
Firstly i'd reboard the floor, if the tiles have worked loose then any grease and grime will soak into the old floor and nothing will stick to this.
I'd be wary about tiling direct to wood, even with new plywood. I always put Ditra matting over any wood floor, i'm sure others hear may say otherwise, but i know i won't have a problem. Also consider cement boards, i'm using more and more of these lately and particularly like Marmox. Stick it down with flexible floor tile adhesive using a 10mm trowel and then screw, using washers, you'll have a really solid floor to work on.

 

[DHTiling]

12mm ply isn't up to BS 5385 standards.. 15mm is the minimum... and as for pva.. it has never been correct to use it.. so ***** slap who ever told you it was.. :lol:

 

[cam_low]

PVA is for kindergarden kids. How old are you ? Must be kinda 'advanced' if you are on the tools at such a young age....


Oh wait...

 

[Phone-a-tiler]

I would have thought that if you are tiling a food prep area that you would also need to install some
kind of coving, be it ceramic or the like. If that is the case it would be a lot harder to fix once the job
is completed and the food inspectors turn up.
The forum guys may have more idea

 

[Houston]

hardiebacker board onto floorboards

 

[SR Tiling]

You definateley need to give some consideration to the grease that will be in the substrate due to the nature of the take away.