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A very valid point to be honest.

I do see where you are coming from but the buckets themselves have a fairly finite life and get thrown out. Generally we leave the adhesive to dry in buckets over night and knock them out on the side of a skip the next day. We usually get around 5 or 6 mixes out of a bucket this way before we end up holing the flexible bucket (maybe we should buy the more expensive ones rather than the £5 ones). In addition, we need to have separate buckets for mixing adhesives and grouts and plastering really to avoid contamination. We end up with an awful lot of buckets really. In addition, cleaning out buckets uses quite a lot of water which is very environmentally unfriendly too!

With liners you can get away with one bucket per tiler to be honest, covering grouting, plastering, tiling, whatever you want. A 2mm liner on each mix will massively extend the life of the buckets.

I think that the liners (which would be made from recycled plastic) would both extend the life of the more expensive buckets and be less wasteful than throwing these buckets when they get holes in them.
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fair points well made... Perhaps they could be made of s biodegradable "plastic"...
 
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There is nothing in the patent application that says it has to be made of plastic to be honest. The more I think of the silicon idea that's been mentioned the more I like that. It would be a bit more pricey but being able to let the stuff dry and just turn it inside out to remove it all seems like it would be brill. It gets rid of the environmental stigma attached to throwing out plastic, even if it is recycled stuff.
 
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Thanks all. I've had a look at the bucket glove. At the moment it's only available in a 300mm diameter by 300mm high bucket which is not even big enough to fit a tiling trowel into to be honest.

Those ones are around £20 each and you would need 3 realistically. I think the larger ones that are supposed to be coming out soon are for their own 30L buckets and you could imagine them being around £35 each.

I'm not convinced they would work with flexible tile adhesive either. Certainly my attempts to knock flexible tile adhesives off a flexible bucket don't work very well!

Guys, those of you who said you might be interested if the product ever did come to market, I would be really interested to know what price you would be willing to pay for a pack of 10 liners. They would be made out of 2mm thick plastic and definitely stand up to a mixer paddle knocking them around, based on the prototype ones we've tried already.

I'm also going to investigate whether it's possible to make it so that the plastic liner can be reversed inside out and used a 2nd time too.
 
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Personally I think the best thing about this is that it is throw away. That should be your usp.If you can get quality that will last a few mixes at a good price, I think it will work.
as for other trades.
plasterers and bricklayers will not spend any money on tools. Plaster doesn't go off and stick like rapid set. Bricklayers just use a bucket to put their entire collection of tools in.
plumbers ( me) do not mix much, and if they do they just chuck the bucket.
i think there's more possibilities to this, i.e. Food manufacturing, where they mix products in buckets and need a clean liner each time.
 

Chalker

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Thanks all. I've had a look at the bucket glove. At the moment it's only available in a 300mm diameter by 300mm high bucket which is not even big enough to fit a tiling trowel into to be honest.

Those ones are around £20 each and you would need 3 realistically. I think the larger ones that are supposed to be coming out soon are for their own 30L buckets and you could imagine them being around £35 each.

I'm not convinced they would work with flexible tile adhesive either. Certainly my attempts to knock flexible tile adhesives off a flexible bucket don't work very well!

Guys, those of you who said you might be interested if the product ever did come to market, I would be really interested to know what price you would be willing to pay for a pack of 10 liners. They would be made out of 2mm thick plastic and definitely stand up to a mixer paddle knocking them around, based on the prototype ones we've tried already.

I'm also going to investigate whether it's possible to make it so that the plastic liner can be reversed inside out and used a 2nd time too.
2 mm ? That's as thick as a bucket!
 
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Thanks all. I've had a look at the bucket glove. At the moment it's only available in a 300mm diameter by 300mm high bucket which is not even big enough to fit a tiling trowel into to be honest.

Those ones are around £20 each and you would need 3 realistically. I think the larger ones that are supposed to be coming out soon are for their own 30L buckets and you could imagine them being around £35 each.

I'm not convinced they would work with flexible tile adhesive either. Certainly my attempts to knock flexible tile adhesives off a flexible bucket don't work very well!

Guys, those of you who said you might be interested if the product ever did come to market, I would be really interested to know what price you would be willing to pay for a pack of 10 liners. They would be made out of 2mm thick plastic and definitely stand up to a mixer paddle knocking them around, based on the prototype ones we've tried already.

I'm also going to investigate whether it's possible to make it so that the plastic liner can be reversed inside out and used a 2nd time too.
on a trial basis I'd probs fork out £15 for a pack of 10, if they proved good I'd possibly pay more in future, if they turned out to be lemons well £15 aint that much to loose.
 
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Cheers, I need to pay you a retainer to keep coming up with these ideas lol!

Personally I think the best thing about this is that it is throw away. That should be your usp.If you can get quality that will last a few mixes at a good price, I think it will work.
as for other trades.
plasterers and bricklayers will not spend any money on tools. Plaster doesn't go off and stick like rapid set. Bricklayers just use a bucket to put their entire collection of tools in.
plumbers ( me) do not mix much, and if they do they just chuck the bucket.
i think there's more possibilities to this, i.e. Food manufacturing, where they mix products in buckets and need a clean liner each time.
 

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Imo if your making it disposable it going to have to be really cheap.....or I would just carry on cleaning out my buckets.....the only thing I buy thats disposable are gloves and they cost around £7.00 for 100 that works out at 0.07 p each .....for a bucket liner that you just throwing away would have to be coming in at well under 50 p each
 

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