Floor fail...but why? - BCT "floor" tiles that are rubbish

[Flintstone]

I'm laying some bct ceramics on a small bathroom floor tomorrow, the joy!

 

[LM]

I'm laying some bct ceramics on a small bathroom floor tomorrow, the joy!

Its as simple as this, if you don't think they're up to the job don't lay them or get a written go ahead, thats what I would do anyway
Why should you have to pick up the cost of a defective product!

 

[Simons70]

Its as simple as this, if you don't think they're up to the job don't lay them or get a written go ahead, thats what I would do anyway
Why should you have to pick up the cost of a defective product!

Even if you have written paper is still your fault if you know is wrong and you do it!

 

[LM]

Even if you have written paper is still your fault if you know is wrong and you do it!

It depends on the actual issue, it's not like your using bad practice. Your clearly stating due to previous instances regarding this manufacturers tile type your concern and that as the customer is supplying their own materials it's up to them if they choose to proceed. I think it would be hard to successfully lay the blame on the tiler in this instance in a court.
However I do agree that in an instance where bad practice has been used then a written go ahead is worthless.

 

[Simons70]

The true is the fact you are the tradesman,the client not have any authority to tell you how you do your job.Is just up to you if is suitable or not,if you with your experience have any concern about the materials or surface not need to ask to your customer,just refuse to do something wrong.

 

[LM]

The true is the fact you are the tradesman,the client not have any authority to tell you how you do your job.Is just up to you if is suitable or not,if you with your experience have any concern about the materials or surface not need to ask to your customer,just refuse to do something wrong.

It's your duty of care as a charging tradesman to follow propper and due practice, which isn't debated here. If you are being asked to install materials that your customer supplied which have been sold as fit for purpose and in your opinion aren't then you've two options, one walk away and loose that channel of potential future work or two, explain in detail your founded concerns and let them decide. It's not as black and white as some one asking you to lay red biscuit crap on a driveway, you've been asked to fit tiles that have been sold as floor tiles by a reputable manufacturer in a bathroom floor. Your not likely to be found at fault for that.

 

[LM]

There was a thread on here a few months ago about a job where the tiler perfectly installed some Porcelthin in a lobby area in an office block in London, but the client, against all advise, chose to move excessive weight accross a floor not fit for that purpose and there was a few tiles that cracked. What did the tiler do wrong there? Nothing! Some times you can tell clients the do's and dont's but in the end it's their decision and if it goes all the way judges are smarter than us!

 

[Stef]

There was a thread on here a few months ago about a job where the tiler perfectly installed some Porcelthin in a lobby area in an office block in London, but the client, against all advise, chose to move excessive weight accross a floor not fit for that purpose and there was a few tiles that cracked. What did the tiler do wrong there? Nothing! Some times you can tell clients the do's and dont's but in the end it's their decision and if it goes all the way judges are smarter than us!

That's was Gary & that floor was laid perfect as seen by the photos when they ripped it up.

 

[LM]

That's was Gary & that floor was laid perfect as seen by the photos when they ripped it up.

Gary as in Gary Walsh? Enough said then, rubbish can happen to the best of us, you just gotta make sure we tick all the boxs.

 

[Stef]

Gary as in Gary Walsh? Enough said then, rubbish can happen to the best of us, you just gotta make sure we tick all the boxs.

Yip, one of the best tilers in the business.

 

[LM]

Yip, one of the best tilers in the business.

For what it's worth Stef before I actually joined this forum I'd heard of him, then I seen some of his stuff on YouTube and then since joining the forum, between reading his posts and reading how other people view him, your absolutely right, 'one of the best' indeed

 

[LM]

I'd say you'll travel along way before you'll meet someone with the same experience

 

[Stef]

I'd say you'll travel along way before you'll meet someone with the same experience

I've been lucky enough to have been on a couple of courses with Gary & he's a gentleman, going through a hard time just now but he will be back showing us how it's done in no time.

 

[LM]

I've been lucky enough to have been on a couple of courses with Gary & he's a gentleman, going through a hard time just now but he will be back showing us how it's done in no time.

Oh ok, didn't know you actually knew him, hope he comes through the hard time
I've never spoke to the man, just heard a lot

 

[Andy Allen]

The only issue i would have is the tile manufacturer will do there upmost to blame the fixer.......all they will say is if there tiles are used on a wooden floor the substrate it has to be rock solid and any cracks that appear means to much movement in the floor.....they will wriggle out of it every time.