Floor fail...but why? - BCT "floor" tiles that are rubbish

[LM]

Yip, one of the best tilers in the business.

For what it's worth Stef before I actually joined this forum I'd heard of him, then I seen some of his stuff on YouTube and then since joining the forum, between reading his posts and reading how other people view him, your absolutely right, 'one of the best' indeed

 

[LM]

I'd say you'll travel along way before you'll meet someone with the same experience

 

[Stef]

I'd say you'll travel along way before you'll meet someone with the same experience

I've been lucky enough to have been on a couple of courses with Gary & he's a gentleman, going through a hard time just now but he will be back showing us how it's done in no time.

 

[LM]

I've been lucky enough to have been on a couple of courses with Gary & he's a gentleman, going through a hard time just now but he will be back showing us how it's done in no time.

Oh ok, didn't know you actually knew him, hope he comes through the hard time
I've never spoke to the man, just heard a lot

 

[Andy Allen]

The only issue i would have is the tile manufacturer will do there upmost to blame the fixer.......all they will say is if there tiles are used on a wooden floor the substrate it has to be rock solid and any cracks that appear means to much movement in the floor.....they will wriggle out of it every time.

 

[SJPurdy]

I did have a case a few years ago of floor tiles cracking over a joint in the Hardie backer. In my case it was because of water getting under the Hardie backer and causing a bit of swelling in the floor boards underneath one of the hardie-backer sheets (actually half sheet nearest bathroom door). This sheet lifted slightly relative to the adjacent sheet and so there was a bending in the Hardie layer at the joint which transferred to the tiles and cracked them. In my case I think they were normal floor tiles, so rule everything else out before blaming the tiles in this case.

There are many so called floor tiles which may be suitable for fixing to a floor in an upstairs bathroom (bare feet and slippers only) but also only need to be fixed to a very rigid substrate (more rigid than BS overboarded floor standards?) and probably need decoupling as a standard.

I think there is a case for floor tiles to be given more relevant grading system which should be clear on the packaging eg. as here suitability for fixing to different substrates; suitability for under tile heating, slip resistance, water resistance, abrasive resistance (hardness), etc. One day!

 

[Flintstone]

I have just done this one today. It is the last time I will be fitting these ceramics on a floor.

I've fitted no more ply with loads of glue and screws, solid bed and back butter.

 

[LM]

You can't do much more than that then

 

[Bathfix Bob]

That's good local tiler, you've done everything right as I did. Imagine how you'd feel if those tiles cracked in 6 months, that's how I feel especially bad as we both know no prep has been skimped on.

 

[The D]

may be a "wall and floor tile "but defo not a timber floor. solid floors only with that tile and even then you are taking a risk

 

[Andy Allen]

may be a "wall and floor tile "but defo not a timber floor. solid floors only with that tile and even then you are taking a risk

I agree with you ....but why can't they put that on the box, I've had many a customer look at me like I've got 2 heads when I tell them imo there not fit to go on a floor when it's written in Black and white suitable for floors Inc kitchen, bathroom, conservatory..etc

 

[The D]

I agree with you ....but why can't they put that on the box, I've had many a customer look at me like I've got 2 heads when I tell them imo there not fit to go on a floor when it's written in Black and white suitable for floors Inc kitchen, bathroom, conservatory..etc

That would restrict the sale of the tiles and any problems that come up can just be shrugged off as fixer error as that is the easiest get out and most tilers will take it on the chin to save their reputation.

 

[Joseph Kover]

The true is the fact you are the tradesman,the client not have any authority to tell you how you do your job.Is just up to you if is suitable or not,if you with your experience have any concern about the materials or surface not need to ask to your customer,just refuse to do something wrong.

yes, dangerous situation.customers expect the trader to make ANY warning against any materials they provide.they most cases ask for confirmation before fitting many also does contact before purchase and provide product codes or direct link to their tile choice.
I did work with British tiles,honestly its just better not to touch them at all just return it and get something else instead.+/- 2.5mm size differences and lots of cracked tiles.poor quality. if you see this one specifically,dont even open the boxes. British Ceramic Tiles Devonstone Grey Feature floor tile - https://www.tiledealer.co.uk/tiles/british-ceramic-tiles/british-ceramic-tiles-devonstone-grey-feature.html