Floor Substrate Tiling Onto Solid Oak Floor

[MW Smith Ceramics]

I've had problems with wooden floors in the past, even using using decoupling membranes and now just don't tile onto any type of timber without being Ott with the prep which customers just won't pay for......

 

[gamma38]

If your worried about the timber moving with it just being glued why don't you say to the customer as a compromise that you will mechanically fix the boards to the substrate for piece of mind. One box of screws and plugs isn't going to add a massive cost in material or labour and then at least you know it's stuck.

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

Okay gamma ,

That sounds like a really good shout mate nice one!......ill look into this with technical

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

Why didn't I think of that.....duh!

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

I think I'll more than likely do that, then bal rapid mat then tiles......jobs a gud'n...... Thanks gamma

 

[AD Ceramics]

My solid oak floor had been down for about six years, that was glued!! when we decided to go for amtico, we left the oak down and latexed over it and installed amtico, three and half years down the line you can see every board where it has expanded and contracted with temperature changes over the seasons.
If I was doing your job I'd insist they have boards removed, if not get them to sign a waver for problems that may arise under your guarantee if you provide one.
There's no substitute for doing the job properly but if they are prepared to waive that at least you don't lose the work, and yes everybody else will comment that I am suggesting you do a substandard job.
Anyway that's my view.....and no swearing!!!!!

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

Thi

If your worried about the timber moving with it just being glued why don't you say to the customer as a compromise that you will mechanically fix the boards to the substrate for piece of mind. One box of screws and plugs isn't going to add a massive cost in material or labour and then at least you know it's stuck.[/QUOTE

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

Lol!.......eh up AD Ceramics, where have you been hiding?.......have you been keeping s low profile since you got told off last time you were on the forums!

Anyway mate just reading through Your post and that is exactly what worries me mate!.....what do you think about mechanically screwing it into the concrete like gamma says??.....but this won't stop any warping if it occurs will it?

Thanks for the feedback.....surprised by the mixed comments on this one......interesting chinwag

 

[Flintstone]

If it is secure as you say, screw it down, uncouple it and tile it

 

[Spare Tool]

Labour wise it'd be quicker to lift it than drill and plug it...remove the wood, remove the uncertainty. These floors are not designed to be screwed down or tiled on. Materials would also be reduced as no crack mat needed

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

Thanks for advice Andy, this was my first thought and sounds like the safest bet I think but very mixed views on this one!.....

 

[Spare Tool]

Thanks for advice Andy, this was my first thought and sounds like the safest bet I think but very mixed views on this one!.....

Its basically a floating floor n we all the mixed views we get about them.. Just lost a decent job today (41sqm floater with ufh) cuz I insisted the lot had to come up and rebuilt with joists and noggins, someone will end up tiling it

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Hello all,

...the floor really is solid and there is just no movement or no hollow areas.......I also took some kickboards off and got chisel underneath but could not budge this oak floor, really solid, has been down for 3 years and no warping across the floor.......


Cheers

Mark

I can only advise on your description!
All jobs are different and its your call - or that of an experienced tiler.

To add : it's not like a floating floor.

 

[Spare Tool]

I can only advise on your description!
All jobs are different and its your call - or that of an experienced tiler.

To add : it's not like a floating floor.

Oh maybe i misinterpreted the original post, I read it as boards were only glued together not glued down, as in floating..

 

[J Sid]

personally I would have the wood up .

nobody seems to be concerned about how this oak has been treated, product wise, and is it ok to adhere to tile adhesive or AF 200