grout line thickness?

[Tiler Blackpool]

Hi All,
Quick one for you. starting a 19m2 uncalibrated slate floor in a pattern tomorrow. What size Grout line would your preference be?
Thanks!

 

[andy8758]

There is no right, probably just a wrong grout gap. Would not recommend going below 3mm - but I have seen slate laid at 2 and 1mm. The uncalibrated refers to differing thickness of slate - mostly they are cut fairly consistently width/length. However you must check first, then you may discover width/length variations of perhaps 2 or 3mm - and in order to keep the pattern uniform you may need a 7 or 8mm gap. Some of the bigger slabs look better with 10mm gap. Then there is the customer view - offer a 5mm gap and most accept with floors.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Uncalibrated slate needs an eye joint and a chalk/laser line.

 

[Tiler Blackpool]

There is no right, probably just a wrong grout gap. Would not recommend going below 3mm - but I have seen slate laid at 2 and 1mm. The uncalibrated refers to differing thickness of slate - mostly they are cut fairly consistently width/length. However you must check first, then you may discover width/length variations of perhaps 2 or 3mm - and in order to keep the pattern uniform you may need a 7 or 8mm gap. Some of the bigger slabs look better with 10mm gap. Then there is the customer view - offer a 5mm gap and most accept with floors.

Thanks Andy, will double check these things and offer the 5mm gap,(providing the slate allows it) as the customer will be there...as he has booked the week off to be!!

 

[Tiler Blackpool]

Thanks John. i always use a chalk line so thats great thanks :thumbs_up:

 

[Mr T]

whats an eye joint?

 

[andy8758]

Eye joint is you set gap by eye and not spacer - if stone is not uniform size its the only way to set a pattern - the chalk line or laser is to keep a straight overall line.

 

[Mr T]

thanks... they are uniform size arnt they? is it not just the actual thickness of the tile?

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Mr 't' - I'am not sure if an eye joint has a definitive measurement value as in 5/6mm or similar, or indeed if there is a relevant British Standard for Uncalibrated slate, however it is often considered that with tiles of varying sizes a regular joint sizes formed by using a consistent thickness of spacer peg will not provide a straight line in the layout.
Therefore by using a chalk line and keeping it between the tiles with equal distance either side ( judged by using 1 eye open and the other closed - eye line) then this will provide the required joint size. Hope this helps.

 

[Fyingscotsman]

Eye joint as theyre almost certain to not be all the exact same size so doing this gives you a bit of play when different sizes comes into it.

Del

 

[Tiler Blackpool]

thanks... they are uniform size arnt they? is it not just the actual thickness of the tile?

Theyre four sizes in a pattern. not actually seen them yet apart from on the display board a topps. They look horrendous with their thickness' which is why i thought id nip on.

 

[Tiler Blackpool]

Mr 't' - I'am not sure if an eye joint has a definitive measurement value as in 5/6mm or similar, or indeed if there is a relevant British Standard for Uncalibrated slate, however it is often considered that with tiles of varying sizes a regular joint sizes formed by using a consistent thickness of spacer peg will not provide a straight line in the layout.
Therefore by using a chalk line and keeping it between the tiles with equal distance either side ( judged by using 1 eye open and the other closed - eye line) then this will provide the required joint size. Hope this helps.

Thankyou Timeless John. much appreciated. Im prepping and setting out it tomorrow so will nip back on with an update

 

[Mr T]

I saw the type your onabout in b&q they look like they would be really hard to lay since theres such a huge difference in thickness... I did see a post on here yesterday tho about sorting the tiles out in order of depth and using the thickest first then increasing the thickness of the bed as you go along which is a really good idea

 

[Mr T]

Thankyou Timeless John. much appreciated. Im prepping and setting out it tomorrow so will nip back on with an update

take some pics and post up when ya done matey

 

[Tiler Blackpool]

Yeah think that was me as i posted about it yesterday. Thanks for all your words of wisdom. Will get some pics up when im done