grouting issue

[Gall.B]

Aye, where you on it John

might have been longer than 5yr ago.

 

[John Benton]

Aye, where you on it John

might have been longer than 5yr ago.

Nah not me ya cheeky mare, it's just that my other half works for DeVere and I guessed it was that one

 

[White Room]

I've said it on other threads and I'll say it on this one, there are big problems with this grout. Someone knows something and won't share the info with the tiling world. Until I'm convinced the problem has been rectified I'll be going no where near ultra colour. In the mean time, I'll keep using BAL.

Thats why I recently asked you what grout your using now Bri....

 

[Gall.B]

Nah not me ya cheeky mare, it's just that my other half works for DeVere and I guessed it was that one

We done a few at that time for DeVere, I also worked on the one in Hull and Bournemouth.

Whats the Mrs say about the grout in the Mosaics? :lol:

 

[John Benton]

We done a few at that time for DeVere, I also worked on the one in Hull and Bournemouth.

Whats the Mrs say about the grout in the Mosaics? :lol:

It's funny you should mention that! Did you do any work at Oulton Hall in the leisure club?

 

[Gall.B]

No mate just Bounemouth and Hull, was it done at the same time as Isay im pretty sure it was about the Summer of 2005 they where all done.

 

[John Benton]

Well the mosaics are falling off in the wetrooms already, done about 4 yrs ago.

 

[Gall.B]

A wee bit worse than patchy grout. :yikes:

Sorry to disapoint John, but it wasnt me, The Tiling Company (Newcastle) only had them 3 on at that time. :smilewinkgrin:

Done some patching in some fitness firsts a wee while ago where the mosaics had been packed out with Hardboard! :mad2:

 

[DHTiling]

I use Ultra colour all the time.. and do not have any issues... it IS!! user error.. you are washing off to early and leaving to much water in the joint... polymer leaching is very common with heavily modified grouts and until you use them properly then you will always get this shading..


Don't want to upset readers etc but IMHO it is user error when cleaning down.. but if another make works for you , then even better but you cannot simply blame a grout when the product is fine...

Just my opinion as to why some folk have issues with this grout.. not digs or cyber bullying.. just how i see it.

 

[John Benton]

A wee bit worse than patchy grout. :yikes:

Sorry to disapoint John, but it wasnt me, The Tiling Company (Newcastle) only had them 3 on at that time. :smilewinkgrin:

Done some patching in some fitness firsts a wee while ago where the mosaics had been packed out with Hardboard! :mad2:

How do these people get the jobs in the first place? They surely must be vetted on previous work and be asked how they are going to repair, but then again the customer wouldn't know what was right or wrong i suppose!

 

[Ian]

I use Ultra colour all the time.. and do not have any issues... it IS!! user error.. you are washing off to early and leaving to much water in the joint... polymer leaching is very common with heavily modified grouts and until you use them properly then you will always get this shading..


Don't want to upset readers etc but IMHO it is user error when cleaning down.. but if another make works for you , then even better but you cannot simply blame a grout when the product is fine...

Just my opinion as to why some folk have issues with this grout.. not digs or cyber bullying.. just how i see it.

Do you not think it is too sensitive Dave? I know lots on here rate it highly, but there do seem to be a lot of issues with it.

 

[DHTiling]

All i know is Bri that is is a good grout and if mixed and cleaned off as it should be then no issues here.. you have to it set up before washing off and that means letting it nearly harden, then scotch pad if necessary to loosen off the surface, but washing off too early can cause issues suffered by others.. as you leave polymer residue on still wet grout and it will not wash off as easy as a just about set grout.. if you see what i mean.. and over wetting pulls pigment..

But the best bet is , if a grout is not for you then use a make that is etc...

 

[Gall.B]

99% will be user error Dave, but they make it so hard to use, I agree with Bri its mor sensitive than my Mrs when its her time of the month!

Just not a fan of it full stop, there are better grouts out there imho.

 

[Ian]

All i know is Bri that is is a good grout and if mixed and cleaned off as it should be then no issues here.. you have to it set up before washing off and that means letting it nearly harden, then scotch pad if necessary to loosen off the surface, but washing off too early can cause issues suffered by others.. as you leave polymer residue on still wet grout and it will not wash off as easy as a just about set grout.. if you see what i mean.. and over wetting pulls pigment..

But the best bet is , if a grout is not for you then use a make that is etc...

Yeah I get what your saying, I just don't like to think that something has got the better of me! Maybe i need to go on a Mapei training day, probably won't be welcome when they see all my posts about their grouts :lol: I do like the adhesives though, use them every day.

 

[DHTiling]

99% will be user error Dave, but they make it so hard to use, I agree with Bri its mor sensitive than my Mrs when its her time of the month!

Just not a fan of it full stop, there are better grouts out there imho.

I like it because i mainly do stone work and the super fast setting time is what i require... no picture framing and nice flush joints.... i just didn't want a grout no matter what make dissed when it isn't a prob with the product...

I think the only grout that i could not get colour uniformity with no matter what i tried was Bal wide joint limestone.. but that might have been sorted now as it is ages since i used it...